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Wonder how long they'll keep trying to use this as a carrot to "upgrade" to Windows 11 before giving in an letting it run on Windows 10? Remember when it was im

Wonder how long they'll keep trying to use this as a carrot to "upgrade" to Windows 11 before giving in an letting it run on Windows 10? Remember when it was impossible for the Xbox to function without Kinect but when customers rejected the platform due to he Kinect requirement, they suddenly discovered a way for the console to not need the Kinect?

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naikrovek 4y ago
putting upgrade in quotes labels you as a perfectly level-headed thinker with no predetermined judgements. mm-hmm.
intern4tional 4y ago
Removing Kinect was engineering work though, it may not have been visible to people outside of MS, but internally there was work required. There isn't any "letting it run" here, there is does Microsoft want to backport this feature to Windows 10? There are challenges with that as the hardware support is much more varied for Windows 10 than 11 and so there are impacts to consider ranging from the weaker hardware requirements for 10 to how these things are integrated in with the OS. Source: I worked at MS, on the OS codebase in security. Kinect / XBOX is much simpler than this as the hardware was at least known and standardized.
pjmlp 4y ago
They will try everything, apparently. Also I get the feeling that everyone that cares about their long term career at Microsoft are now on Azure, as the future Cloud OS from Microsoft, so we end up with these gimmicks trying to sell needless upgrades. Yet what they could do better than anything else would be to move away from COM / C++ mindset at WinDev, but alas, that is asking too much.
Dalewyn 4y ago
Just over 2 years. At that point Windows 10 will be EOL, so Microsoft would have a legitimate excuse to give no subsequent fucks. Anyone who needs or cares about manufacturer support will downgrade at that point. As for the never-downgrade diehards, well, they were never going to downgrade anyway (source: me, Windows 7 machine as daily driver for non-gaming tasks).

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naikrovek 4y ago

putting upgrade in quotes labels you as a perfectly level-headed thinker with no predetermined judgements. mm-hmm.

intern4tional 4y ago

Removing Kinect was engineering work though, it may not have been visible to people outside of MS, but internally there was work required. There isn't any "letting it run" here, there is does Microsoft want to backport this feature to Windows 10? There are challenges with that as the hardware support is much more varied for Windows 10 than 11 and so there are impacts to consider ranging from the weaker hardware requirements for 10 to how these things are integrated in with the OS. Source: I worked at MS, on the OS codebase in security. Kinect / XBOX is much simpler than this as the hardware was at least known and standardized.

pjmlp 4y ago

They will try everything, apparently. Also I get the feeling that everyone that cares about their long term career at Microsoft are now on Azure, as the future Cloud OS from Microsoft, so we end up with these gimmicks trying to sell needless upgrades. Yet what they could do better than anything else would be to move away from COM / C++ mindset at WinDev, but alas, that is asking too much.

Dalewyn 4y ago

Just over 2 years. At that point Windows 10 will be EOL, so Microsoft would have a legitimate excuse to give no subsequent fucks. Anyone who needs or cares about manufacturer support will downgrade at that point. As for the never-downgrade diehards, well, they were never going to downgrade anyway (source: me, Windows 7 machine as daily driver for non-gaming tasks).