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> That way, one can hope, it may be possible to separate facts from matters of opinion from outrights falsehoods. Jan. 6th was a based on a series of falsehood

by bb88 4y ago

> That way, one can hope, it may be possible to separate facts from matters of opinion from outrights falsehoods. Jan. 6th was a based on a series of falsehoods. Fox News and several Republican politicians claimed it was a antifa "False Flag" operation the night after it happened. Fox News downplayed much of the Trump scandals in his presidency. So now turnabout is fair play I guess with the coverage of whatever's on Hunter Biden's laptop? The entire narrative is clouded by Giuliani and company apparently tampering with the data that made it to the NY Post. > .. and quite possibly civil war. So we need to restore Trump to the presidency, suspend the constitution, or whatever the right wing demands or there will be violence? Why can't it be just as simple Fox News, Alex Jones, OANN, and Newsmax agreeing to no longer manufacture outrage for ratings?

trashtester 4y ago
> So we need to restore Trump to the presidency, suspend the constitution, or whatever the right wing demands or there will be violence? Not what I'm saying at all, rather the opposite. But if both sides stop interpreting everything coming frome moderates on the other side in the worst possible light, that's a start in mitigating polarization.
- bb88 4y ago
  Personally I don't think that's the issue. I think the issue is that social media is the most amazing tool for propaganda ever invented. The Russians realized it in 2016. One of the two political parties learned from that experience rather than wanted to fix it.
  - trashtester 4y ago
    > I think the issue is that social media is the most amazing tool for propaganda ever invented. The Russians realized it in 2016, and the data I've seen indicates that they promoted both Trump and Sanders at the time. > One of the two political parties learned from that experience rather than wanted to fix it. Both sides spread a lot of lies and even more half truths both in social media and more traditional media. The loyalists on both sides also both seem unable to spot where their own side is spreading disinformation and propaganda.

by bb88 4y ago

trashtester 4y ago

> So we need to restore Trump to the presidency, suspend the constitution, or whatever the right wing demands or there will be violence? Not what I'm saying at all, rather the opposite. But if both sides stop interpreting everything coming frome moderates on the other side in the worst possible light, that's a start in mitigating polarization.

bb88 4y ago
Personally I don't think that's the issue. I think the issue is that social media is the most amazing tool for propaganda ever invented. The Russians realized it in 2016. One of the two political parties learned from that experience rather than wanted to fix it.
- trashtester 4y ago
  > I think the issue is that social media is the most amazing tool for propaganda ever invented. The Russians realized it in 2016, and the data I've seen indicates that they promoted both Trump and Sanders at the time. > One of the two political parties learned from that experience rather than wanted to fix it. Both sides spread a lot of lies and even more half truths both in social media and more traditional media. The loyalists on both sides also both seem unable to spot where their own side is spreading disinformation and propaganda.