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Reasonable to whom? I used to be a small car enthusiast and scoffed at these large SUV people. Now I have two kids and a large (but not largest) SUV. You get o

Reasonable to whom? I used to be a small car enthusiast and scoffed at these large SUV people. Now I have two kids and a large (but not largest) SUV. You get one cuz you need one.

Gigachad 4y ago
No one needs one. Trivially proven by the fact people had two kids before SUVs existed. And all the people who currently have 2 kids without an SUV. You chose to prioritize your comfort over other peoples safety.
- mcronce 4y ago
  Yup. Two kids fit in the back seat of a sedan perfectly fine.
  - uxp100 4y ago
    That’s definitely true, but I was a little surprised when a car seat didn’t fit in the back of my midsize sedan without pushing the front seat all the way up. So we (2 tall people) sit drivers seat and other rear seat now.
- hellotomyrars 4y ago
  Not necessarily reflective of how people use them. Obviously a lot of people have one bigger than they need, just like people have trucks who don’t actually do things they need a truck for more than once a year, if that. But the soccer mom stereotype is also real and more families are both busy working parents so it isn’t uncommon for one or a few people to fill all three rows with kids for transport to their sports activities.
- macinjosh 4y ago
  Many small cars cannot even reasonably fit the car seats required for infants and toddlers. I have a 4 door Hyundai hatchback and my daughter’s car seat only fits with the driver seat so far up it is unsafe for me or the passenger. My ford edge on the other hand is much safer and can actually fit the legally required seats for my kids. So I need one. Don’t care what you think.
  - micromacrofoot 4y ago
    Some seats work better in small cars than others. Walmart, Target and some others will let you try out seats to make sure they fit in your car. You don't actually need one, I don't know your situation but this is the objective truth for most people. I've raised 4 kids with a 2-door hatchback. I couldn't buy any seat off the shelf, but they've all met the legal standards and performed well. Worth noting that the Ford Edge is also still relatively medium-sized compared to some other American trucks/SUVs. There are stock pickup trucks that I'd literally need a step ladder to see inside of the engine compartment.
micromacrofoot 4y ago
Most of the planet isn't American and does fine without one. Infrastructure in the US is designed in a specific way to prop up the auto industry and the increasing size of cars continues to do so. It will take a long time to undo, but there are billions of people living in communities that don't require any car, let alone some 3-4 ton monstrosity (~80% of the world owns no car at all). Previous to the race to drive the biggest car on the road, even in the US cars were not as large. The common refrain is that safety features inflated the size, which is partially true, but wildly overstated considering there are plenty of smaller cars available today. There's nothing special about the US that makes cars a requirement by nature.
timbit42 4y ago
I have one sibling and we did fine in a Chevy Corvette.

Reasonable to whom? I used to be a small car enthusiast and scoffed at these large SUV people. Now I have two kids and a large (but not largest) SUV. You get one cuz you need one.

Gigachad 4y ago

No one needs one. Trivially proven by the fact people had two kids before SUVs existed. And all the people who currently have 2 kids without an SUV. You chose to prioritize your comfort over other peoples safety.

mcronce 4y ago
Yup. Two kids fit in the back seat of a sedan perfectly fine.
- uxp100 4y ago
  That’s definitely true, but I was a little surprised when a car seat didn’t fit in the back of my midsize sedan without pushing the front seat all the way up. So we (2 tall people) sit drivers seat and other rear seat now.
hellotomyrars 4y ago
Not necessarily reflective of how people use them. Obviously a lot of people have one bigger than they need, just like people have trucks who don’t actually do things they need a truck for more than once a year, if that. But the soccer mom stereotype is also real and more families are both busy working parents so it isn’t uncommon for one or a few people to fill all three rows with kids for transport to their sports activities.
macinjosh 4y ago
Many small cars cannot even reasonably fit the car seats required for infants and toddlers. I have a 4 door Hyundai hatchback and my daughter’s car seat only fits with the driver seat so far up it is unsafe for me or the passenger. My ford edge on the other hand is much safer and can actually fit the legally required seats for my kids. So I need one. Don’t care what you think.
- micromacrofoot 4y ago
  Some seats work better in small cars than others. Walmart, Target and some others will let you try out seats to make sure they fit in your car. You don't actually need one, I don't know your situation but this is the objective truth for most people. I've raised 4 kids with a 2-door hatchback. I couldn't buy any seat off the shelf, but they've all met the legal standards and performed well. Worth noting that the Ford Edge is also still relatively medium-sized compared to some other American trucks/SUVs. There are stock pickup trucks that I'd literally need a step ladder to see inside of the engine compartment.

micromacrofoot 4y ago

Most of the planet isn't American and does fine without one. Infrastructure in the US is designed in a specific way to prop up the auto industry and the increasing size of cars continues to do so. It will take a long time to undo, but there are billions of people living in communities that don't require any car, let alone some 3-4 ton monstrosity (~80% of the world owns no car at all). Previous to the race to drive the biggest car on the road, even in the US cars were not as large. The common refrain is that safety features inflated the size, which is partially true, but wildly overstated considering there are plenty of smaller cars available today. There's nothing special about the US that makes cars a requirement by nature.

timbit42 4y ago

I have one sibling and we did fine in a Chevy Corvette.