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Tracking protection can and should be done at the OS level, not at the store level. Even Windows has this. Canceling a Fortnite subscription is as simple via t

Tracking protection can and should be done at the OS level, not at the store level. Even Windows has this. Canceling a Fortnite subscription is as simple via them as it is on any other storefront: https://www.epicgames.com/help/en-US/fortnite-c5719335176219/fortnite-crew-c5719379485083/how-can-i-cancel-my-fortnite-crew-subscription-a5720438130715 https://www.epicgames.com/help/en-US/fortnite-c5719335176219... So all that's left is reversing purchases. You can do that through your bank or credit card issuer for any fraudulent purchase, if you want Apple to act as that gatekeeper instead you should make purchases via Apple. Are you saying all vendors should be required to hand 30% of all their revenues to Apple so it is slightly easier for you to reverse a purchase, even though there are already well-tested universal channels for doing it? I've had to reverse purchases before without dealing with Apple and it has always been a smooth process. Basically your argument seems to boil down to "my convenience justifies a 30% tax on all app developers". Are you in favor of moves like Apple requiring a 30% tax on IRL event tickets sold via services like Facebook, even though Apple provides no services to the live event operator other than payment processing? Apple even prohibited Facebook from disclosing the tax's existence.

GeekyBear 4y ago
> Tracking protection can and should be done at the OS level How does the OS force an app not to disable functionality if you refuse to allow tracking? >Canceling a Fortnite subscription is as simple via them as it is on any other storefront Are we pretending that there is no such thing as a company that makes cancelling a subscription as difficult as possible? >You can do that through your bank or credit card issuer for any fraudulent purchase If you read the article linked above, one of the reasons Epic was fined half a billion dollars was that anyone who got their credit card issuer to reverse fraudulent purchases found that Epic banned accounts for that. You seem to be ignoring reality here.
- galleywest200 4y ago
  They did get their money back, so that point still stands. They just happened to have their accounts banned for this. However, this situation is likely due to corporate America's toxicity towards chargebacks which are commonly issued due to the corporation's incompetence or malice.
  - GeekyBear 4y ago
    No, the point would stand if you could get a refund, cancel subscriptions, and withhold personal data from app developers without retaliation. The app store allows these sorts of things today. If you have other priorities, other device options exist.
    - lapcat 4y ago
      > If you have other priorities, other device options exist. There are a number of factors and tradeoffs involved in deciding whether or not to buy an iPhone. Let's not pretend it all comes down to one and only one thing. Not to mention that Android sideloading is kind of crappy and limited. Much more limited than Mac or Windows "sideloading". People seem to forget that Epic is suing Google too.
      - GeekyBear 4y ago
        I remain unconvinced that you have a point here. Perhaps you could offer some specifics? I prefer to deal with a platform that puts the interests of the customer ahead of the interests of the vendor.
        lapcat 4y ago
        > I remain unconvinced that you have a point here. Perhaps you could offer some specifics? Surely you're not claiming that literally the only reason to buy a $799.00 iPhone is to get a $7.99 refund on an IAP? I suspect that you yourself can think of other reasons. Design? Durability? Features? Technology? Compatibility/Ecosystem? I mean, what's the reason to buy an Apple Mac, which isn't locked down to the App Store? In my personal opinion, the crApp Store is the worst part of iPhone, not the best part. > I prefer to deal with a platform that puts the interests of the customer ahead of the interests of the vendor. Let me know if you find one LOL.

GeekyBear 4y ago

> Tracking protection can and should be done at the OS level How does the OS force an app not to disable functionality if you refuse to allow tracking? >Canceling a Fortnite subscription is as simple via them as it is on any other storefront Are we pretending that there is no such thing as a company that makes cancelling a subscription as difficult as possible? >You can do that through your bank or credit card issuer for any fraudulent purchase If you read the article linked above, one of the reasons Epic was fined half a billion dollars was that anyone who got their credit card issuer to reverse fraudulent purchases found that Epic banned accounts for that. You seem to be ignoring reality here.

galleywest200 4y ago
They did get their money back, so that point still stands. They just happened to have their accounts banned for this. However, this situation is likely due to corporate America's toxicity towards chargebacks which are commonly issued due to the corporation's incompetence or malice.
- GeekyBear 4y ago
  No, the point would stand if you could get a refund, cancel subscriptions, and withhold personal data from app developers without retaliation. The app store allows these sorts of things today. If you have other priorities, other device options exist.
  - lapcat 4y ago
    > If you have other priorities, other device options exist. There are a number of factors and tradeoffs involved in deciding whether or not to buy an iPhone. Let's not pretend it all comes down to one and only one thing. Not to mention that Android sideloading is kind of crappy and limited. Much more limited than Mac or Windows "sideloading". People seem to forget that Epic is suing Google too.
    - GeekyBear 4y ago
      I remain unconvinced that you have a point here. Perhaps you could offer some specifics? I prefer to deal with a platform that puts the interests of the customer ahead of the interests of the vendor.
      - lapcat 4y ago
        > I remain unconvinced that you have a point here. Perhaps you could offer some specifics? Surely you're not claiming that literally the only reason to buy a $799.00 iPhone is to get a $7.99 refund on an IAP? I suspect that you yourself can think of other reasons. Design? Durability? Features? Technology? Compatibility/Ecosystem? I mean, what's the reason to buy an Apple Mac, which isn't locked down to the App Store? In my personal opinion, the crApp Store is the worst part of iPhone, not the best part. > I prefer to deal with a platform that puts the interests of the customer ahead of the interests of the vendor. Let me know if you find one LOL.