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This is a rhetorical question, right? If you consume music then surely, you want the artists and musicians you support to be paid fairly for their work.
by iamacyborg 4y ago
This is a rhetorical question, right?
If you consume music then surely, you want the artists and musicians you support to be paid fairly for their work.
- civopsec 4y agoWhy is that “surely”?
- iamacyborg 4y agoYou're right, my bad, I assumed most folks would have a base level of empathy.
- smolyeet 4y agoWell , it’s either I listen to it using this easy platform for us common folk, or I don’t listen to them at all. Or i pirate. It’s not that deep , you can get off your high horse.
- e-v 4y agoThere's no high horse. Your message doesn't answer the argument. The fact (A) that one wouldn't buy music if Spotify weren't available is not related to (B) not caring about how Spotify treats artists. Even if A is true, it doesn't imply that one has no empathy for artists.
- meltedcapacitor 4y agoBetween dead artists and art-for-art-sake artists we're not gonna run out of stuff to listen to, even if intellectual property was abolished tomorrow morning (as it should be). It only works for the 1 percent at the top anyway (due to power law distribution).
- strken 4y agoCan you or jrm4 explain why Spotify's royalty system (a 70/30 split in favour of the rights holder) is unfair? If I had to guess I'd say it convinces artists to license their work for less money than they'd make if they stuck it on Bandcamp, but I'm not certain, and neither of you has explained it.
- iamacyborg 4y agoSpotify don’t pay 70/30 and the actual payout is not related to what individuals actually listen to. For example, I could spend a month listening to only indie artists, but the lion’s share of my subscription would be paid out to major labels.
- strken 4y agoThe Hypebot explanation suggests it's more complicated than that: https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2021/11/how-spotify-royalties-actually-work.html https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2021/11/how-spotify-royaltie... I have no idea whether it's correct or not.
- jrm4 4y agoI specifically said "hasn't improved much" instead of "unfair" because I do realize that it wasn't particularly fair before? At present, it seems like the most fair thing would be to just be honest about the fact that royalties from Spotify and royalties from piracy for the vast majority of artists is roughly equal. :)
- yamtaddle 4y agoI prefer a world that supports artists to one that doesn't, but from a purely selfish perspective, there's already so much recorded music that I do love or will, if/when I eventually discover it, love, that I wouldn't run out of novel, great material that's to my taste, in two lifetimes. There are whole major genres I've barely even touched so far. The effect on my lifetime QOL would be basically zero if no new commercial music were created ever again.