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You are aware that an entire generation of Internet forums operated (and still operate) this way, right? Big forums had big hosting costs and required donation
by nerdponx 4y ago
You are aware that an entire generation of Internet forums operated (and still operate) this way, right?
Big forums had big hosting costs and required donations from members, had issues with spam, had to source volunteer moderators from the community, etc., just like big Mastodon instances today.
Small forums had few of those issues because the scale was smaller. The problem was not that nobody wanted to run a small forum: it's actually kind of fun to be a forum admin for your friends, and only one person in the group actually needs to be the admin. The problem was that nobody wanted to be on a small forum because it was small.
Now you can have it both ways: a small instance with trivial running cost and moderation demands, but all the benefits of being on a huge forum with thousands of concurrent users.
See also: Discord servers. Administering a Mastodon instance that you pay someone to host is not much more difficult than administering a Discord server. If people found it difficult to moderate a Discord server, why would so many friend groups, gamer groups, content creators, sub-Reddits, and software projects have their own small Discord servers? The answer is that the cost of moderating a small group of people is really small because small groups are easy to moderate, and the main downside of a small group isn't really relevant when the small group can follow and interact with anyone in the huge federated network.
- darkwater 4y ago> You are aware that an entire generation of Internet forums operated (and still operate) this way, right? And yet many of them died or, better put, most of the new forums were never born nowadays because communities moved to centralized, managed solutions (Facebook, Telegram, Discord, Slack etc)
- kitsune_ 4y agoMany of the focused niche discussions around the globe still happen in forums (and subreddits).
- darkwater 4y agoReddit is as centralized as a platform could ever be.
- kitsune_ 4y agoI didn't claim otherwise
- nerdponx 4y agowhat's interesting about Reddit is that moderation is (in theory) decentralized and handled independently by each sub. Only account creation and discovery are centralized, from the perspective of an average user experience. The whole point of a federated system is that you get the best of both worlds: global discovery and one single account/login for all communities, but you retain per-community moderation.
- nerdponx 4y agoI mostly attributed this at the time to UI/UX improvement in the centralized platforms, and not needing so many different logins for different communities.