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So the fire department was contacted, did not hear of any lives at risk, and did not show up. What an entirely reasonable response to getting a service request

by jakear 4y ago

So the fire department was contacted, did not hear of any lives at risk, and did not show up. What an entirely reasonable response to getting a service request from someone who has not established a SLA with your company. Do you personally work at a company? If so, I demand you to help me fix a problem I'm having. I haven't paid you, but that shouldn't matter. What's that? You won't help me? But you helped my competitor who did establish a contract with you in which they paid you a monthly fee in exchange for a guarantee you'd help them when the needed it. The horror. The absolute travesty. Society has failed.

that_guy_iain 4y ago
> So the fire department was contacted, did not hear of any lives at risk, and did not show up. The article doesn't say that does it. They say the fire department was contacted and responded that they weren't on the list. They refused to accept any payment. And only turned up when someone who was on the list called. We have a phrase for people like you, jog on.
- jakear 4y ago
  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The claim “firefighters wouldn’t come if someone’s life was in danger from a fire” is extraordinary. The evidence “firefighters didn’t come when no one’s life was in danger from a fire” isn’t. Come up with real evidence or quit bellyaching.
  - that_guy_iain 4y ago
    The claim is that the firefighters didn't know if anyone's live was in danger because they didn't show up. The evidence is that they refused to show up when called and only showed up when called by someone else. Without being prescene at the scene it is not possible for a firefigther to know if someone's life is endanger or not because the person calling isn't trained to know that. The real evidence for the very basic claim is there.
    - jakear 4y ago
      > Without being prescene at the scene it is not possible for a firefigther to know if someone's life is endanger or not because the person calling isn't trained to know that. Yeah... that's about the weakest argument I've heard this week. Firefighters don't have magical spidey senses to tell them whether someone is trapped in a burning building. They will go based on what the homeowner says -- it doesn't take special training to verify that 3 people live at your house and all of them are on the road with you watching it burn. Fire department certainly isn't risking life and limb to comb through an actively burning building verifying it to be empty when the homeowner themselves already said it was. >that the firefighters didn't know if anyone's live was in danger because they didn't show up. Person: Hello, my house is on fire come save it please. FireDepartment: Is anyone's life in danger? Person: No. FireDepartment: Thank you for letting me know. That's how easy it is, same conversation would happen whether or not they were on "the list".
dang 4y ago
"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by jakear 4y ago

that_guy_iain 4y ago

> So the fire department was contacted, did not hear of any lives at risk, and did not show up. The article doesn't say that does it. They say the fire department was contacted and responded that they weren't on the list. They refused to accept any payment. And only turned up when someone who was on the list called. We have a phrase for people like you, jog on.

jakear 4y ago
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The claim “firefighters wouldn’t come if someone’s life was in danger from a fire” is extraordinary. The evidence “firefighters didn’t come when no one’s life was in danger from a fire” isn’t. Come up with real evidence or quit bellyaching.
- that_guy_iain 4y ago
  The claim is that the firefighters didn't know if anyone's live was in danger because they didn't show up. The evidence is that they refused to show up when called and only showed up when called by someone else. Without being prescene at the scene it is not possible for a firefigther to know if someone's life is endanger or not because the person calling isn't trained to know that. The real evidence for the very basic claim is there.
  - jakear 4y ago
    > Without being prescene at the scene it is not possible for a firefigther to know if someone's life is endanger or not because the person calling isn't trained to know that. Yeah... that's about the weakest argument I've heard this week. Firefighters don't have magical spidey senses to tell them whether someone is trapped in a burning building. They will go based on what the homeowner says -- it doesn't take special training to verify that 3 people live at your house and all of them are on the road with you watching it burn. Fire department certainly isn't risking life and limb to comb through an actively burning building verifying it to be empty when the homeowner themselves already said it was. >that the firefighters didn't know if anyone's live was in danger because they didn't show up. Person: Hello, my house is on fire come save it please. FireDepartment: Is anyone's life in danger? Person: No. FireDepartment: Thank you for letting me know. That's how easy it is, same conversation would happen whether or not they were on "the list".

dang 4y ago

"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html