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> The licensing costs for VS.NET, MSQL, and related products are a rounding error compared to the cost of salary paid to a 3-7 man team. Not for a pre-seed sta

by azakai 15y ago

> The licensing costs for VS.NET, MSQL, and related products are a rounding error compared to the cost of salary paid to a 3-7 man team. Not for a pre-seed startup. In that common situation, software licensing costs can be by far the biggest cost you have. > Using open-source tools to save a few dollars is a sure sign of incompetence, inexperience, and a soon-to-fail project. Saving a few dollars in return for tools that are on average of similar quality - sometimes better, sometimes worse - is in no way like what you just described.

powertower 15y ago
> Not for a pre-seed startup. In that common situation, software licensing costs can be by far the biggest cost you have. In that situation, it's almost free-of-charge from Microsoft with their BizSpark (and similar) programs.
- azakai 15y ago
  And as already mentioned by others, the problem is that the procedure for getting software through that (and other confusing programs) is convoluted. For a startup, messing with that is a distraction when there are equal-quality tools available by simple download.
  - powertower 15y ago
    If you have personal experience with this please share it. The other people in this thread basically said it was great except for one individual who had a problem with a host that would not allow user serials. > when there are equal-quality tools available by simple download I suppose the keyword is when or if. I which case that becomes true.
    - azakai 15y ago
      > If you have personal experience with this please share it. The other people in this thread basically said it was great except for one individual who had a problem with a host that would not allow user serials. Are we reading the same thread? Pretty much everyone agrees that MS licensing is convoluted and bothersome. >> when there are equal-quality tools available by simple download > I suppose the keyword is when or if. I which case that becomes true. Good software can be proprietary or open source. These days, neither is better than the other overall. You need to make a specific choice in each case.

by azakai 15y ago

powertower 15y ago

> Not for a pre-seed startup. In that common situation, software licensing costs can be by far the biggest cost you have. In that situation, it's almost free-of-charge from Microsoft with their BizSpark (and similar) programs.

azakai 15y ago
And as already mentioned by others, the problem is that the procedure for getting software through that (and other confusing programs) is convoluted. For a startup, messing with that is a distraction when there are equal-quality tools available by simple download.
- powertower 15y ago
  If you have personal experience with this please share it. The other people in this thread basically said it was great except for one individual who had a problem with a host that would not allow user serials. > when there are equal-quality tools available by simple download I suppose the keyword is when or if. I which case that becomes true.
  - azakai 15y ago
    > If you have personal experience with this please share it. The other people in this thread basically said it was great except for one individual who had a problem with a host that would not allow user serials. Are we reading the same thread? Pretty much everyone agrees that MS licensing is convoluted and bothersome. >> when there are equal-quality tools available by simple download > I suppose the keyword is when or if. I which case that becomes true. Good software can be proprietary or open source. These days, neither is better than the other overall. You need to make a specific choice in each case.