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> I mean, yes, but doctors will still save your life even if you declined to buy any insurance all life long or pay taxes or whatever So will firefighters. T

> I mean, yes, but doctors will still save your life even if you declined to buy any insurance all life long or pay taxes or whatever So will firefighters. They'll save your life to the best of their ability, no matter any contracts, payments, taxes, etc. Saving your house is another matter.

monkmartinez 4y ago
Number one priority on any emergency scene. Life safety... my crew comes first, but I have taken some serious risk to save people. Once the humans and animals are safe, everything else is less concerning. Risk a lot to save a lot. Most "things" can be replaced. My crew takes great pride in saving homeowners animals these days as we now have some tools to help post smoke/heat exposure (Cyanokit and O2).
- flandish 4y ago
  Adding a second reply with same sentiment. I am also a firefighter, and my main “assignment” over the years has been search/rescue. We’ll always risk to reward. But more and more the phase after life saving is trending toward “surround and drown” - not that I want to fight like detroit in the 2010’s, but yes we do make a call sometimes to stop risking when lives are all confirmed safe.
  - elliottkember 4y ago
    Thank you (both) for your service to the community.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    There’s also a point where a structure is a total loss even if the “damage doesn’t look so bad from out here” at which point letting it burn as long as other buildings aren’t in danger may be the safest thing to do.
fakedang 4y ago
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- nisegami 4y ago
  By living on unincorporated land, they wouldn't have been subject to the tax that pays for the fire department (which would be county level or city level I'm guessing?)
  - bombcar 4y ago
    City; counties only have states above them so there isn’t “out of county land” usually.
    - Larrikin 4y ago
      Some states like Virginia have city and county both at the top local level. Richmond City is completely separate from the extremely rural Richmond county located more than an hour away. Virginia is also technically a Commonwealth and not a state as well.
      - bombcar 4y ago
        Virginia has lots of oddities- like being west of West Virginia.
- Majromax 4y ago
  > I thought that taxes were supposed to pay for basic neighborhood services Neighbourhood is the operative word here. In some parts of the rural United States, homes are far away and far between. Public services of the kind expected in populated areas are impractical, particularly for protection of property rather than life. With that as a baseline, some "rural" areas maintain this peculiar, low-cost characteristic even as they become more populated. There's a degree of self-sorting behaviour as well, since some residents become attracted to the area specifically for its vanishingly small local tax burden.
- 4y ago

monkmartinez 4y ago

Number one priority on any emergency scene. Life safety... my crew comes first, but I have taken some serious risk to save people. Once the humans and animals are safe, everything else is less concerning. Risk a lot to save a lot. Most "things" can be replaced. My crew takes great pride in saving homeowners animals these days as we now have some tools to help post smoke/heat exposure (Cyanokit and O2).

flandish 4y ago
Adding a second reply with same sentiment. I am also a firefighter, and my main “assignment” over the years has been search/rescue. We’ll always risk to reward. But more and more the phase after life saving is trending toward “surround and drown” - not that I want to fight like detroit in the 2010’s, but yes we do make a call sometimes to stop risking when lives are all confirmed safe.
- elliottkember 4y ago
  Thank you (both) for your service to the community.
- bombcar 4y ago
  There’s also a point where a structure is a total loss even if the “damage doesn’t look so bad from out here” at which point letting it burn as long as other buildings aren’t in danger may be the safest thing to do.

fakedang 4y ago

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nisegami 4y ago
By living on unincorporated land, they wouldn't have been subject to the tax that pays for the fire department (which would be county level or city level I'm guessing?)
- bombcar 4y ago
  City; counties only have states above them so there isn’t “out of county land” usually.
  - Larrikin 4y ago
    Some states like Virginia have city and county both at the top local level. Richmond City is completely separate from the extremely rural Richmond county located more than an hour away. Virginia is also technically a Commonwealth and not a state as well.
    - bombcar 4y ago
      Virginia has lots of oddities- like being west of West Virginia.
Majromax 4y ago
> I thought that taxes were supposed to pay for basic neighborhood services Neighbourhood is the operative word here. In some parts of the rural United States, homes are far away and far between. Public services of the kind expected in populated areas are impractical, particularly for protection of property rather than life. With that as a baseline, some "rural" areas maintain this peculiar, low-cost characteristic even as they become more populated. There's a degree of self-sorting behaviour as well, since some residents become attracted to the area specifically for its vanishingly small local tax burden.
4y ago