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Same here, mine has been running overclocked to 5ghz for about 10 years (?) now and I refused to upgrade it by quite a few "lakes". Sure now it's getting pummel

Same here, mine has been running overclocked to 5ghz for about 10 years (?) now and I refused to upgrade it by quite a few "lakes". Sure now it's getting pummeled by hugely multicores newer processors, but for a long time, it was top of the range.

dehrmann 4y ago
The #1 reason to upgrade is Microsoft is demanding it for Windows 11. Otherwise, older CPUs with plenty of RAM and an SSD still do great for non-intense workloads.
- Mistletoe 4y ago
  This is so incredibly lame of Windows. So much e-waste created so that secretaries can use excel and look at their Facebook on Windows 11.
  - PaulHoule 4y ago
    It's not an unreasonable decision for an OS vendor to occasionally say that a certain level of processor is necessary for future versions of the OS. Apple does it with MacOS. I have a 2013 Mac Mini that is going strong except that it doesn't run the latest version of MacOS. The only real problem I had with it is that Safari for a long time didn't support WebP on that version of MacOS which kept me using JPG images for a while. The trouble is that Intel's rollout of the future has been shambolic at best. Potentially revolutionary extensions such as TSX and SGX failed. It is still too early to require AVX-512 which could speed up and reduce power consumption of your web browser since many of Intel's "latest and greatest" client CPUs don't support it. (Don't buy the false claim that AVX-512 is a power pig: sure it will consume a lot of power running at full clock because it is doing a lot of work... AVX-512 helps "atom class" processors quite a bit because it avoids instruction decoding which Intel is bad at.) It's not clear that Microsoft's new line in the sand is going to buy them very much extra functionality for Windows.
    - skelpmargyar 4y ago
      The problem is they haven't added anything significantly new to Windows 11. I don't see any features that requires new processor features.
- toast0 4y ago
  > The #1 reason to upgrade is Microsoft is demanding it for Windows 11. Isn't that also the #1 reason not to upgrade? In other words, is Windows 11 compelling yet? As of now, mostly I just hear complaints, and ocassionally tidbits about better scheduling for newer chips with multiple core types (which is compelling, but only if you upgraded)
  - smolder 4y ago
    No, Windows 11 is not compelling. MS is trying to be a worse apple, and doing a great job at it.
  - jerrygenser 4y ago
    WSL 2 is significantly better on Windows 11 than Windows 10. If you do remote development on WSL, it's worth upgrading to Windows 11 purely for the ability to get the wsl2 improvements.
    - frio 4y ago
      Those have all (including WSLg) recently been completely backported to and made available on Windows 10 (https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/the-windows-subsystem-for-linux-in-the-microsoft-store-is-now-generally-available-on-windows-10-and-11/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/the-windows-subsy...).
Arrath 4y ago
Same here, I relatively recently* upgraded from my OC'd first gen i7, that thing was great for a very long time. *Good lord, has it been 3 years already?

dehrmann 4y ago

The #1 reason to upgrade is Microsoft is demanding it for Windows 11. Otherwise, older CPUs with plenty of RAM and an SSD still do great for non-intense workloads.

Mistletoe 4y ago
This is so incredibly lame of Windows. So much e-waste created so that secretaries can use excel and look at their Facebook on Windows 11.
- PaulHoule 4y ago
  It's not an unreasonable decision for an OS vendor to occasionally say that a certain level of processor is necessary for future versions of the OS. Apple does it with MacOS. I have a 2013 Mac Mini that is going strong except that it doesn't run the latest version of MacOS. The only real problem I had with it is that Safari for a long time didn't support WebP on that version of MacOS which kept me using JPG images for a while. The trouble is that Intel's rollout of the future has been shambolic at best. Potentially revolutionary extensions such as TSX and SGX failed. It is still too early to require AVX-512 which could speed up and reduce power consumption of your web browser since many of Intel's "latest and greatest" client CPUs don't support it. (Don't buy the false claim that AVX-512 is a power pig: sure it will consume a lot of power running at full clock because it is doing a lot of work... AVX-512 helps "atom class" processors quite a bit because it avoids instruction decoding which Intel is bad at.) It's not clear that Microsoft's new line in the sand is going to buy them very much extra functionality for Windows.
  - skelpmargyar 4y ago
    The problem is they haven't added anything significantly new to Windows 11. I don't see any features that requires new processor features.
toast0 4y ago
> The #1 reason to upgrade is Microsoft is demanding it for Windows 11. Isn't that also the #1 reason not to upgrade? In other words, is Windows 11 compelling yet? As of now, mostly I just hear complaints, and ocassionally tidbits about better scheduling for newer chips with multiple core types (which is compelling, but only if you upgraded)
- smolder 4y ago
  No, Windows 11 is not compelling. MS is trying to be a worse apple, and doing a great job at it.
- jerrygenser 4y ago
  WSL 2 is significantly better on Windows 11 than Windows 10. If you do remote development on WSL, it's worth upgrading to Windows 11 purely for the ability to get the wsl2 improvements.
  - frio 4y ago
    Those have all (including WSLg) recently been completely backported to and made available on Windows 10 (https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/the-windows-subsystem-for-linux-in-the-microsoft-store-is-now-generally-available-on-windows-10-and-11/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/the-windows-subsy...).

Arrath 4y ago

Same here, I relatively recently* upgraded from my OC'd first gen i7, that thing was great for a very long time. *Good lord, has it been 3 years already?