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> so big corporations can save like $5 on paper & postage? At their scale it's much. I honestly don't care about their costs, but at their scale that's tons of

by muhehe 4y ago

> so big corporations can save like $5 on paper & postage? At their scale it's much. I honestly don't care about their costs, but at their scale that's tons of paper and gas that's totally wasted. I don't know which country you're from, but all my bank statements, utility invoice etc go to my email, so there is no need to log anywhere. I'm not sure about others right now, but utilities are definitely signed. Maybe you could talk to your bank/... about it.

RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
> At their scale it's much. At their scale it is replaceable: They earn money to do their duties, if they cost a bit more they bill the customers a bit more so they get it back. The time of my life is NOT replaceable. I do not get it back EVER. And they very likely don't give a damn about their customers, it doesn't matter to them if some cronjob delivers PDFs or another cronjob prints letters - at the end of the day they just want to go home. I do CARE about living, it gravely matters to me how much of my life I have available for myself. > tons of paper and gas that's totally wasted. It's not wasted: It fulfilled it's purpose of delivering information to me in a convenient fashion. And once I'm done with it, it goes into the paper bin and gets recycled. > I don't know which country you're from, but all my bank statements, utility invoice etc go to my email, so there is no need to log anywhere. I'm not sure about others right now, but utilities are definitely signed. Every company here has a different method. Websites, emails which link to websites, emails which are the invoice, emails which have an attachement that is the invoice. It is impossible to cleanly integrate this into one workflow. A plain old regular paper mailbox however already is a clean, integrated workflow which ships unified pieces of paper which all have the same size and are able to be put into the same kind of folders thus. Hence optimizing this to be more convenient for companies means taking away individual lifetime which matters to individuals for the sake of enriching entities which do not care about the money they saved, it's just a number in some database for them. > Maybe you could talk to your bank/... about it. Do you seriously believe they will do anything? Whenever I interact with those kind of people, I rarely get an answer ever, and that's about things which are part of their daily duties. If you go to them expecting them to actually do something out of their ordinary - good luck. It will get ignored with a 99% probability. And even if one of them does something: Then the other dozen companies I have to deal with will not do anything. So paper has to stay anyway. I'm happy with it. It's convenient, it's super standardized, and it just works.

by muhehe 4y ago

RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago

> At their scale it's much. At their scale it is replaceable: They earn money to do their duties, if they cost a bit more they bill the customers a bit more so they get it back. The time of my life is NOT replaceable. I do not get it back EVER. And they very likely don't give a damn about their customers, it doesn't matter to them if some cronjob delivers PDFs or another cronjob prints letters - at the end of the day they just want to go home. I do CARE about living, it gravely matters to me how much of my life I have available for myself. > tons of paper and gas that's totally wasted. It's not wasted: It fulfilled it's purpose of delivering information to me in a convenient fashion. And once I'm done with it, it goes into the paper bin and gets recycled. > I don't know which country you're from, but all my bank statements, utility invoice etc go to my email, so there is no need to log anywhere. I'm not sure about others right now, but utilities are definitely signed. Every company here has a different method. Websites, emails which link to websites, emails which are the invoice, emails which have an attachement that is the invoice. It is impossible to cleanly integrate this into one workflow. A plain old regular paper mailbox however already is a clean, integrated workflow which ships unified pieces of paper which all have the same size and are able to be put into the same kind of folders thus. Hence optimizing this to be more convenient for companies means taking away individual lifetime which matters to individuals for the sake of enriching entities which do not care about the money they saved, it's just a number in some database for them. > Maybe you could talk to your bank/... about it. Do you seriously believe they will do anything? Whenever I interact with those kind of people, I rarely get an answer ever, and that's about things which are part of their daily duties. If you go to them expecting them to actually do something out of their ordinary - good luck. It will get ignored with a 99% probability. And even if one of them does something: Then the other dozen companies I have to deal with will not do anything. So paper has to stay anyway. I'm happy with it. It's convenient, it's super standardized, and it just works.