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> Although the relative plethora of Oberon variants [..] suggests that maybe it was still not quite fully evolved. That's a reasonable conclusion, but one has

by Rochus 4y ago

> Although the relative plethora of Oberon variants [..] suggests that maybe it was still not quite fully evolved. That's a reasonable conclusion, but one has to consider that most variants came from academia and focused on specific scientific questions, not on the adaptation to practical needs of the industry. > it would be possible to re-unify them under one standard, in the way that Common Lisp managed to do I did that with Oberon+ which unifies Oberon, Oberon-07 and Oberon-2. It also includes what I consider the best ideas of Component Pascal and Active Oberon (though I don't like the syntax of these two languages very much). See https://oberon-lang.github.io/2021/07/15/motivation-for-a-new-oberon-version.html https://oberon-lang.github.io/2021/07/15/motivation-for-a-ne..., https://oberon-lang.github.io/2021/07/16/comparing-oberon+-with-oberon-2-and-07.html https://oberon-lang.github.io/2021/07/16/comparing-oberon+-w... and https://github.com/oberon-lang/specification/blob/master/The_Programming_Language_Oberon%2B.adoc https://github.com/oberon-lang/specification/blob/master/The....

lproven 4y ago
> I did that with Oberon+ which unifies Oberon, Oberon-07 and Oberon-2. Oh I see! But, AIUI, that's just a compiler on other OSes, right? It's the IDE and the OS that interests me. If I wanted to program on Linux or whatever, I'd probably use FreePascal or something. It's the OS and the integration that makes Oberon interesting for me. In a world of sprawling multi-gigabyte OSes implemented in half a dozen languages and held together with sticky tape: various scripting language. One tiny elegant OS, self-hosted in one tiny language, has charm for me.
- Rochus 4y ago
  > that's just a compiler on other OSes, right? It's possible to run an Oberon System with it (see https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem ); it runs on all platforms and the generated C code could even be made run as an OS on an embedded system if need be; I currently also experiment with System 3 and alternative backends; but this is more for curiosity; from my humble point of view the OS topic is solved with Linux (which can also be configured for very low resource systems).
  - lproven 4y ago
    That is very cool!

by Rochus 4y ago

lproven 4y ago

> I did that with Oberon+ which unifies Oberon, Oberon-07 and Oberon-2. Oh I see! But, AIUI, that's just a compiler on other OSes, right? It's the IDE and the OS that interests me. If I wanted to program on Linux or whatever, I'd probably use FreePascal or something. It's the OS and the integration that makes Oberon interesting for me. In a world of sprawling multi-gigabyte OSes implemented in half a dozen languages and held together with sticky tape: various scripting language. One tiny elegant OS, self-hosted in one tiny language, has charm for me.

Rochus 4y ago
> that's just a compiler on other OSes, right? It's possible to run an Oberon System with it (see https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem ); it runs on all platforms and the generated C code could even be made run as an OS on an embedded system if need be; I currently also experiment with System 3 and alternative backends; but this is more for curiosity; from my humble point of view the OS topic is solved with Linux (which can also be configured for very low resource systems).
- lproven 4y ago
  That is very cool!