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I really dislike advertisements that want you to "request access." I've submitted them on occasion before, but have never heard back. And the information they w

I really dislike advertisements that want you to "request access." I've submitted them on occasion before, but have never heard back. And the information they want to collect is invasive. I suspect they're all vapourware harvesting information about the gullible.

danuker 4y ago
> Hi Nunya Biznis! What's your email address?This question is required. * nunya.biznis@mailinator.com Check out what they sent: https://www.mailinator.com/v4/public/inboxes.jsp?to=nunya.biznis https://www.mailinator.com/v4/public/inboxes.jsp?to=nunya.bi...
- smcl 4y ago
  "Muahahaha"? Hm ok
  - danuker 4y ago
    Ugh. People deleted the original message. I guess we can't have nice things. But you can register with a different Mailinator address.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - smcl 4y ago
      AHhh I see :D No worries, I just clicked it out of curiosity and was a little confused that someone would use this in their marketing copy :D
- dmarlow 4y ago
  This link hijacked my back navigation and I couldn't get back to hn. Sigh.
bfeynman 4y ago
That is some next level tin foil hat wearing
- mypetocean 4y ago
  Anyone up for starting a programming language with me to farm data about programmers?
  - intelVISA 4y ago
    Only if we can thinly wrap the AWS CDK.
duped 4y ago
This is a common tactic for startups to measure interest and collect leads pre-launch. They probably aren't contacting you because the product isn't ready yet and/or you aren't a "qualified" lead (someone they think is worth spending the time to sell to)
shaiber 4y ago
[Wing team member here] I promise you this is a real project with a very large code-base already. You are welcome to request access, and I promise to let you in very quickly so you can see. The reason it is not yet completely open is that we want a way to engage more with our first community members and get some data about their needs.
dang 4y ago
Vapourware harvesting exists, but tends to have less substantial content. This looks like a startup that doesn't feel ready to open their wares. Still, you're not alone in disliking this kind of post. "Request access" is a bad basis for a solid HN thread*, because users expect to be able to actually try out the product, and need more information about what it is and how it works in order for the comments to be substantive. When this product reaches that state, then would be a good time to discuss it on HN. * When YC startups want to launch on HN, I tell them they need to be past this stage.
- shaiber 4y ago
  [Wing team member here] Makes a lot of sense. As someone here guessed, this post was not something that we planned and it caught us off guard

danuker 4y ago

> Hi Nunya Biznis! What's your email address?This question is required. * nunya.biznis@mailinator.com Check out what they sent: https://www.mailinator.com/v4/public/inboxes.jsp?to=nunya.biznis https://www.mailinator.com/v4/public/inboxes.jsp?to=nunya.bi...

smcl 4y ago
"Muahahaha"? Hm ok
- danuker 4y ago
  Ugh. People deleted the original message. I guess we can't have nice things. But you can register with a different Mailinator address.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - smcl 4y ago
    AHhh I see :D No worries, I just clicked it out of curiosity and was a little confused that someone would use this in their marketing copy :D
dmarlow 4y ago
This link hijacked my back navigation and I couldn't get back to hn. Sigh.

bfeynman 4y ago

That is some next level tin foil hat wearing

mypetocean 4y ago
Anyone up for starting a programming language with me to farm data about programmers?
- intelVISA 4y ago
  Only if we can thinly wrap the AWS CDK.

duped 4y ago

This is a common tactic for startups to measure interest and collect leads pre-launch. They probably aren't contacting you because the product isn't ready yet and/or you aren't a "qualified" lead (someone they think is worth spending the time to sell to)

shaiber 4y ago

[Wing team member here] I promise you this is a real project with a very large code-base already. You are welcome to request access, and I promise to let you in very quickly so you can see. The reason it is not yet completely open is that we want a way to engage more with our first community members and get some data about their needs.

dang 4y ago

Vapourware harvesting exists, but tends to have less substantial content. This looks like a startup that doesn't feel ready to open their wares. Still, you're not alone in disliking this kind of post. "Request access" is a bad basis for a solid HN thread*, because users expect to be able to actually try out the product, and need more information about what it is and how it works in order for the comments to be substantive. When this product reaches that state, then would be a good time to discuss it on HN. * When YC startups want to launch on HN, I tell them they need to be past this stage.

shaiber 4y ago
[Wing team member here] Makes a lot of sense. As someone here guessed, this post was not something that we planned and it caught us off guard