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Work Not Welfare Is Key to Escaping Poverty

3 points by RickJWagner 4y ago

wahnfrieden 4y ago
This is a propaganda piece written by a propaganda outlet
- JoeyBananas 4y ago
  The negative effects of welfare cliffs are real. I've known several people who perhaps could have gone back to work but didn't because they feared losing their welfare. It's not crazy to suggest that there could be a better system
- sn0w_crash 4y ago
  Yes, pushing people to work to get out of poverty is evil propaganda. Let me guess, you think “the Jews” are behind this?
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    The Cato institute is one of those "think tanks" that is actually a business-backed lobby group. It supports "libertarian" and "rightwing" positions and is linked to Charles Koch and his late brother David. They also fund the some of the US's Christian right-wing politicians. So your ignorant and insulting guess is way, way off. https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/cato-institute/ https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/cato-institute/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute#Funding_details https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute#Funding_details https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/23/koch-brothers-agenda-key-donations-promotions https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/23/koch-brother...
- ss108 4y ago
  Cato clearly has an ideological bent, but it's not propaganda. They don't just make shit up, they're not Fox News or something
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Cato clearly has an ideological bent, but it's not propaganda It is literally propaganda. > They don't just make shit up They do, but that’s not required to be propaganda. Distortion by cherrt picking is a popular propaganda technique, for instance. > they're not Fox News or something No, they aren’t the popular propagands media, true. They are aimed at a different core audience.
    - sn0w_crash 4y ago
      Nothing in this comment has explained why we should ignore the Cato institute or the findings in its article. “It’s ideologically misaligned with me, therefore it is propaganda” is really difficult for many of us to follow.
    - ss108 4y ago
      This comment is hardly more sophisticated than the comments of Trump supporters about CNN and other "mAinSTReam MedIa" outlets (at least you allege they cherry pick data).

3 points by RickJWagner 4y ago

wahnfrieden 4y ago

This is a propaganda piece written by a propaganda outlet

JoeyBananas 4y ago
The negative effects of welfare cliffs are real. I've known several people who perhaps could have gone back to work but didn't because they feared losing their welfare. It's not crazy to suggest that there could be a better system
sn0w_crash 4y ago
Yes, pushing people to work to get out of poverty is evil propaganda. Let me guess, you think “the Jews” are behind this?
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  The Cato institute is one of those "think tanks" that is actually a business-backed lobby group. It supports "libertarian" and "rightwing" positions and is linked to Charles Koch and his late brother David. They also fund the some of the US's Christian right-wing politicians. So your ignorant and insulting guess is way, way off. https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/cato-institute/ https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/cato-institute/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute#Funding_details https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute#Funding_details https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/23/koch-brothers-agenda-key-donations-promotions https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/23/koch-brother...
ss108 4y ago
Cato clearly has an ideological bent, but it's not propaganda. They don't just make shit up, they're not Fox News or something
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Cato clearly has an ideological bent, but it's not propaganda It is literally propaganda. > They don't just make shit up They do, but that’s not required to be propaganda. Distortion by cherrt picking is a popular propaganda technique, for instance. > they're not Fox News or something No, they aren’t the popular propagands media, true. They are aimed at a different core audience.
  - sn0w_crash 4y ago
    Nothing in this comment has explained why we should ignore the Cato institute or the findings in its article. “It’s ideologically misaligned with me, therefore it is propaganda” is really difficult for many of us to follow.
  - ss108 4y ago
    This comment is hardly more sophisticated than the comments of Trump supporters about CNN and other "mAinSTReam MedIa" outlets (at least you allege they cherry pick data).