I've seen people I 100% know are natural (as in I've used steroids, knew people using them, knew few people who were gym rats and were interested but were way t

I've seen people I 100% know are natural (as in I've used steroids, knew people using them, knew few people who were gym rats and were interested but were way too squeemish to take the plunge) have similar physique as Layne. What transformation are we talking about ? Due has been lifting since teens and posted pics AFAIK. Haven't followed that part of his career TBH. Anyway the dude looks like upper limit natty - maybe he's on TRT maybe he isn't - his advice is mostly research based and he's basically the guy shitting on FOTM diets.