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Still, it will also be a lot harder for Ukraine to get support from their western allies when it comes to Crimea. First, it's considered vital by Russian strat
by WastingMyTime89 4y ago
Still, it will also be a lot harder for Ukraine to get support from their western allies when it comes to Crimea.
First, it's considered vital by Russian strategists so the likelihood of Russia using a nuclear weapon if Crimea is at stake is higher than for anything else in the conflict.
Secondly, historically, the claim of Ukraine to Crimea is far more tenuous than for the other area at stake. Crimea has been at odd with the Ukrainian federation regarding its independence for as long as it has existed as an entity independent of the USSR. It was rattached to Ukraine in the act acting its existence as a political entity and one of its first move was declaring independence in 1992 which Ukraine rejected. They were de facto independent and very pro-Russia until 1995 when Ukraine sent its army and forced their government into exile. It makes Crimea pretty unique in the conflict as there is a legitimate claim that it actually wants to be a part of Russia rather than Ukraine which is why the western reaction following the 2014 invasion was so muted.
- slaw 4y agoIs it possible for Crimea to become independent country?
- thewinnie 4y agoCan you please add some proofs for all your statements? As a person who been living in Crimea for big part of my live I do find your comment very disconnected from reality. From strategist perspective Crimea does not have anything to give to Russia except logistics problems and few military bases. Ukraine has way more claims for Crimea rather than Russia. If we gonna use your logic than Russia should give back to Ukraine Kuban oblast (which for long time were part of the USSR) Crimea had its own parliament but saying it was independent its an open lie. Crimea belong to crimean tatars. Which been deported from Crimea during Stalin genocide. But if we go with your logic, crimean tatars should be the one who are the real "owners" of the Crimea, and they are pro-Ukrainane. Simply cause russia to this day killing and torturing them. Nothing with Crimea occupation is unique. Dictatorship government occupy new territory, silencing and do genocide so then it will be easy to fake referendums.
- WastingMyTime89 4y agoYou can read the Wikipedia article "Republic of Crimea (1992–1995)" which is extremely well sourced with link to NYT articles of the period and some good academic papers from before the 2014 invasion. That's if it hasn't been defaced of course. Crimea is a contentious point of the current conflict. I don't really understand your point about real "owners". Crimea today is de facto Russia and de jure Ukraine on the basis of the 1994 agreement (I think we can safely ignore the 9 countries which accepted the results of the 2014 referendum). Their unique situation regarding the rest of Ukraine is that they have been at odd with the federation more often than not and have consistently voted for pro-Russian politicians to the point that Ukraine had to military removes their government once. It is very different from what's happening in the other invaded provinces.
- thewinnie 4y ago> Crimea is a contentious point of the current conflict. > Crimea today is de facto Russia no, and no, no, you are trying to justify occupation, murdering, raping and civilian deaths right now. We are no longer living in the 18th century and those barbaric methods are not longer valid and acceptable in current society. Its hard for me to gasp how even you can justify those actions