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Nobody needs that much acceleration, but it helps drive home the fact that EVs have real advantages over combustion cars beyond not destroying the environment.

Nobody needs that much acceleration, but it helps drive home the fact that EVs have real advantages over combustion cars beyond not destroying the environment. And while you’re not going to stomp the pedal to the floor at every green light, instant torque is very nice.

bamboozled 4y ago
I like EVs but isn't mining for Lithium still destroying the environment ?
- neallindsay 4y ago
  Mining for lithium is destroying the environment much less than mining for oil is. But yes, going without a car completely is better than driving an electric car.
- saturn_vk 4y ago
  Isn't Lithium obtained from salt-water evaporation pools?
  - throwayyy479087 4y ago
    Yes. The anti-lithium thing is a Big Oil campaign that people are falling for. They frequently use pictures of _coal mining_ as Lithium. Lithium is mostly made the same way as salt - just like you said. There are a few pit mines, but we also do that for .... everything else. Including oil!
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  Caring about pit mining and watersheds is so 1972. Get with the times granpa. We care about carbon now. /s All mining is bad for the environment to an extent. The total environmental impact of EVs appears to be substantially less than ICE vehicles, all things included.
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    Thanks
- tracker1 4y ago
  It's less than great and largely a mixed bag. I'm honestly surprised that desalinization and hydrogen research never made the jump as it seems more sustainable. Also, somewhat concerned that the electricity generated for most EVs is mostly coming from fossil fuels as well (natural gas in the US which burns cleaner, but lower efficiency to electricity). I think it will take a combination of things. I think the geopolitical controls over Lithium supply are probably more concerning, as is the availability of resources in and of themselves, which won't meet demand and will drive up costs. I'm also concerned about the sheer number of products being shipped in small batches everywhere all day, at least in the US... I see an Amazon/UPS/USPS driver on my small street alone many times a day. It just feels very inefficient and wonder if this is just worse than taking a couple steps back away from convenience.

bamboozled 4y ago

I like EVs but isn't mining for Lithium still destroying the environment ?

neallindsay 4y ago
Mining for lithium is destroying the environment much less than mining for oil is. But yes, going without a car completely is better than driving an electric car.
saturn_vk 4y ago
Isn't Lithium obtained from salt-water evaporation pools?
- throwayyy479087 4y ago
  Yes. The anti-lithium thing is a Big Oil campaign that people are falling for. They frequently use pictures of _coal mining_ as Lithium. Lithium is mostly made the same way as salt - just like you said. There are a few pit mines, but we also do that for .... everything else. Including oil!
dsfyu404ed 4y ago
Caring about pit mining and watersheds is so 1972. Get with the times granpa. We care about carbon now. /s All mining is bad for the environment to an extent. The total environmental impact of EVs appears to be substantially less than ICE vehicles, all things included.
- bamboozled 4y ago
  Thanks
tracker1 4y ago
It's less than great and largely a mixed bag. I'm honestly surprised that desalinization and hydrogen research never made the jump as it seems more sustainable. Also, somewhat concerned that the electricity generated for most EVs is mostly coming from fossil fuels as well (natural gas in the US which burns cleaner, but lower efficiency to electricity). I think it will take a combination of things. I think the geopolitical controls over Lithium supply are probably more concerning, as is the availability of resources in and of themselves, which won't meet demand and will drive up costs. I'm also concerned about the sheer number of products being shipped in small batches everywhere all day, at least in the US... I see an Amazon/UPS/USPS driver on my small street alone many times a day. It just feels very inefficient and wonder if this is just worse than taking a couple steps back away from convenience.