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But couldn't this be made into an intermediary device that one would hook up to their main water connection to a home, like a reverse osmosis type device, and e

But couldn't this be made into an intermediary device that one would hook up to their main water connection to a home, like a reverse osmosis type device, and ensure that your tap water is pure? Then, if you're flushing your system with such pure water - maybe it does a good job on the liver and kidneys? I drink A LOT of water each day... and what I would also like to know is if this system has any effect on the removal of fluoride from water (tap water) --- Side note: My dad was very good friends with the CEO of Alcoa for many years... and fluoride is a side product of aluminum manufacture, and the quote Ill never forget was "The reason the put fluoride in the water is they dont have any other place to put it - so they store it in your liver" I dont know if that was a joke - but I was like 15 when he said it, so I wasnt sure if he was fn with me....

engineer_22 4y ago
As I understand it, this is a process, not a filter, so it does not remove any matter from the water, it changes the PFAs into something else, presumably something that is not as harmful. Carbon filtration will remove any contaminants (e.g. Florida, chlorine) in your water through adsorption. For the money, you can't beat it.
autoexec 4y ago
He was probably joking, but that is one of the many conspiracy theories that exist about fluoridated water so it's possible he was a believer. The actual reason the put fluoride in the water is because it helps prevent cavities. Reverse osmosis filters can remove it.
- Cthulhu_ 4y ago
  https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-children... > In a meta-analysis, researchers from Harvard School of Public Health (HSPH) and China Medical University in Shenyang for the first time combined 27 studies and found strong indications that fluoride may adversely affect cognitive development in children. My GF is from the UK where they fluoridate the water. Tap water is undrinkable (flavor) and should only be used after boiling (evaporates the fluoride and chlorine). She had pretty serious fluoridosis (demineralisation of her teeth) which sorted itself out while living here (NL, we're lucky to have fresh groundwater). IMO, fluoride is fine for external use (in toothpaste), but shouldn't be consumed. If I may put on my conspiratorial tin-foil hat, it's a means of population control - keep them stupid and docile.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    I'd wait for better research than a review of a bunch of flawed studies from china where they have a lot of environmental exposure to things that could impact IQ besides the fluoride in their water. Fluoridated water doesn't taste any different than non-fluoridated water, so whatever taste the water in the UK has doesn't come from that, and leaving it out will not remove the fluoride through evaporation. That trick does work for chlorine though. One conspiracy is that Nazi's or Russians used fluoridated water as a mind control substance that could make people stupid and willing to accept whatever they were told, but that's been repeatedly debunked. It might be exciting to think about, but there's nothing to support that fluoride (which often occurs naturally in water) has mind control properties. In the US all you have to do is look around you to see that people have zero problems resisting and complaining about the government (sometimes to their own detriment). The fluoride doesn't seem to be effective for anything but keeping teeth healthy. As for harm to people's IQ, we don't have the evidence to support that at the levels added to municipal water, and I'd suggest a bigger contributor to the problem of lower IQs might be lead and mercury. We've been spooning heavy metals directly into our children's mouths for decades and you don't need conspiracy theory websites or weak research on children living on the other side of planet to know that it's been going on here in the US. https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/oversight-subcommittee-staff-report-reveals-top-baby-foods-contain-dangerous https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/oversight-su... It's not being done for government mind control reasons though (the government is calling for it to stop in this instance) instead it's being done because corporations are greedy, don't care who they poison if doing so will grant them higher profits, and the regulatory agencies which should protect us and our children are weak and captured by industry. It's strange how conspiracy theories seem to take up people's attention causing them to passionately rail against myths while real atrocities are going on around them largely ignored.
piuantiderp 4y ago
He was half-joking. A great book on this topic is "The Fluoride Deception", pretty interesting documentation and very restrained in jumping to conclusions. Btw, it would be a bane of aluminum producers if they had to find safe ways to dispose of it, instead they get to sell it to utilities.

engineer_22 4y ago

As I understand it, this is a process, not a filter, so it does not remove any matter from the water, it changes the PFAs into something else, presumably something that is not as harmful. Carbon filtration will remove any contaminants (e.g. Florida, chlorine) in your water through adsorption. For the money, you can't beat it.

autoexec 4y ago

He was probably joking, but that is one of the many conspiracy theories that exist about fluoridated water so it's possible he was a believer. The actual reason the put fluoride in the water is because it helps prevent cavities. Reverse osmosis filters can remove it.

Cthulhu_ 4y ago
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-children... > In a meta-analysis, researchers from Harvard School of Public Health (HSPH) and China Medical University in Shenyang for the first time combined 27 studies and found strong indications that fluoride may adversely affect cognitive development in children. My GF is from the UK where they fluoridate the water. Tap water is undrinkable (flavor) and should only be used after boiling (evaporates the fluoride and chlorine). She had pretty serious fluoridosis (demineralisation of her teeth) which sorted itself out while living here (NL, we're lucky to have fresh groundwater). IMO, fluoride is fine for external use (in toothpaste), but shouldn't be consumed. If I may put on my conspiratorial tin-foil hat, it's a means of population control - keep them stupid and docile.
- autoexec 4y ago
  I'd wait for better research than a review of a bunch of flawed studies from china where they have a lot of environmental exposure to things that could impact IQ besides the fluoride in their water. Fluoridated water doesn't taste any different than non-fluoridated water, so whatever taste the water in the UK has doesn't come from that, and leaving it out will not remove the fluoride through evaporation. That trick does work for chlorine though. One conspiracy is that Nazi's or Russians used fluoridated water as a mind control substance that could make people stupid and willing to accept whatever they were told, but that's been repeatedly debunked. It might be exciting to think about, but there's nothing to support that fluoride (which often occurs naturally in water) has mind control properties. In the US all you have to do is look around you to see that people have zero problems resisting and complaining about the government (sometimes to their own detriment). The fluoride doesn't seem to be effective for anything but keeping teeth healthy. As for harm to people's IQ, we don't have the evidence to support that at the levels added to municipal water, and I'd suggest a bigger contributor to the problem of lower IQs might be lead and mercury. We've been spooning heavy metals directly into our children's mouths for decades and you don't need conspiracy theory websites or weak research on children living on the other side of planet to know that it's been going on here in the US. https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/oversight-subcommittee-staff-report-reveals-top-baby-foods-contain-dangerous https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/oversight-su... It's not being done for government mind control reasons though (the government is calling for it to stop in this instance) instead it's being done because corporations are greedy, don't care who they poison if doing so will grant them higher profits, and the regulatory agencies which should protect us and our children are weak and captured by industry. It's strange how conspiracy theories seem to take up people's attention causing them to passionately rail against myths while real atrocities are going on around them largely ignored.

piuantiderp 4y ago

He was half-joking. A great book on this topic is "The Fluoride Deception", pretty interesting documentation and very restrained in jumping to conclusions. Btw, it would be a bane of aluminum producers if they had to find safe ways to dispose of it, instead they get to sell it to utilities.