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Well yeah, duh. Of course people can do what they want. Criticizing Musk's (or anybodies) actions is not tantamount to trying to say he shouldn't be allowed to

Well yeah, duh. Of course people can do what they want. Criticizing Musk's (or anybodies) actions is not tantamount to trying to say he shouldn't be allowed to do them (except for the stuff he actually shouldn't be allowed to do, and hopefully gets prosecuted for - mostly violating employment law). I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here? People should vote with their wallets/service usage but never ever discuss why? Public figures should be able to do whatever they want with no criticism?

xigoi 4y ago
I just find it ironic how the sides have swapped. Previously when Twitter was censoring right-wing opinions, leftists went “it's a private company, they can do whatever they want and you're not allowed to criticize them”. Now that Musk has taken over, it seems to be the opposite.
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  What leftist did that? Leftists don’t believe in private for profit corporations. It’d be weird for them to care about capital ownership all of a sudden. When was Twitter censoring “right wing opinion”. Do you mean bigotry?
  - xigoi 4y ago
    > What leftist did that? Franklin Veaux (a famous writer on Quora), for example. > Leftists don’t believe in private for profit corporations. It’d be weird for them to care about capital ownership all of a sudden. That's what I find the most perplexing about it. > When was Twitter censoring “right wing opinion”. Specifically, it was applying different rules to different groups. For example, hateful posts about white people were allowed, whereas hateful posts about black people were not.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      > hateful posts about white people were allowed Example of a hateful post of a white person? I highly doubt this is true. Do you believe calling a white person cracker is hate? Funnily enough, leftist and actually famous (in streaming + political circles) Hasan Piker, a white guy, got de-platformed temporarily because right wingers hate watched him and reported him for using cracker. Cracker comes from the whips cracking...because white people in America OWNED other human beings and still benefit from the systemic racism that is integrated into society. > Franklin Veaux I don't think Franklin Veaux is that big of a leftist. If at all. I spent a few min looking him up. I found a post talking about left and right politics. It is filled with inaccuracies and appears to be written by some one who consumes the most basic of news and politics. Here: https://blog.franklinveaux.com/2022/06/7985/ https://blog.franklinveaux.com/2022/06/7985/ He equates liberals and the left. He doesn't seem to understand what liberal means. This is politics 101. He says "Liberals don’t accept this. Liberals are biased toward egalitarianism; the same rules apply to everybody." This isn't true. By definition liberals believe in capitalism. Capitalism by definition is not "the same rules apply to everybody". The blog post seems more like anti-leftist propaganda. Making liberals seem like they are on the left is so wrong. Unless you have some evidence that not only shows he's a leftist (a socialist), but can answer why he made such a bad blog post and still keeps it up, he's probably a full blown liberal.
      - xigoi 4y ago
        > Example of a hateful post of a white person? Here are some examples I've collected: https://freeimage.host/a/pre-musk-twitter-racism.f55mv https://freeimage.host/a/pre-musk-twitter-racism.f55mv Franklin is left-wing in the modern sense, which is more about social politics than distribution of money. I didn't mean to imply that he was a socialist. Sorry for the confusion.
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        Franklin would probably be offended like you with your example. Classic lib take. (A) You incorrectly insulted leftists. (B) You used Franklin, a huge liberal (like yourself), to make your point. Franklin knows jack shit about politics. (C) You incorrectly stated leftist in the modern sense means liberal. I’m American. I know there’s a world outside the right-wing brain rotted USA. (D) You incorrectly stated modern leftism is more about social politics. The control of the means of production and thus surplus value going to capitalists vs workers is Capitalism 101. The analogue of the GOP are the Torys in the UK and the Liberal Party in AU. They are huge liberals. Reagan and the Tory leader of the 80s, Thatcher, ushered in neoliberalism. You should educate yourself before incorrectly insulting leftist ideology. You sound like a Ben Shapiro or Bill Maher NPC trying to “own the libs”. I shouldn’t have to teach you basic politics.
  - p1necone 4y ago
    > Leftists don’t believe in private for profit corporations. The left of the political spectrum in the USA is mostly to the right of actual communism.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      Hahaha that’s true.

xigoi 4y ago

I just find it ironic how the sides have swapped. Previously when Twitter was censoring right-wing opinions, leftists went “it's a private company, they can do whatever they want and you're not allowed to criticize them”. Now that Musk has taken over, it seems to be the opposite.

skinnymuch 4y ago
What leftist did that? Leftists don’t believe in private for profit corporations. It’d be weird for them to care about capital ownership all of a sudden. When was Twitter censoring “right wing opinion”. Do you mean bigotry?
- xigoi 4y ago
  > What leftist did that? Franklin Veaux (a famous writer on Quora), for example. > Leftists don’t believe in private for profit corporations. It’d be weird for them to care about capital ownership all of a sudden. That's what I find the most perplexing about it. > When was Twitter censoring “right wing opinion”. Specifically, it was applying different rules to different groups. For example, hateful posts about white people were allowed, whereas hateful posts about black people were not.
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    > hateful posts about white people were allowed Example of a hateful post of a white person? I highly doubt this is true. Do you believe calling a white person cracker is hate? Funnily enough, leftist and actually famous (in streaming + political circles) Hasan Piker, a white guy, got de-platformed temporarily because right wingers hate watched him and reported him for using cracker. Cracker comes from the whips cracking...because white people in America OWNED other human beings and still benefit from the systemic racism that is integrated into society. > Franklin Veaux I don't think Franklin Veaux is that big of a leftist. If at all. I spent a few min looking him up. I found a post talking about left and right politics. It is filled with inaccuracies and appears to be written by some one who consumes the most basic of news and politics. Here: https://blog.franklinveaux.com/2022/06/7985/ https://blog.franklinveaux.com/2022/06/7985/ He equates liberals and the left. He doesn't seem to understand what liberal means. This is politics 101. He says "Liberals don’t accept this. Liberals are biased toward egalitarianism; the same rules apply to everybody." This isn't true. By definition liberals believe in capitalism. Capitalism by definition is not "the same rules apply to everybody". The blog post seems more like anti-leftist propaganda. Making liberals seem like they are on the left is so wrong. Unless you have some evidence that not only shows he's a leftist (a socialist), but can answer why he made such a bad blog post and still keeps it up, he's probably a full blown liberal.
    - xigoi 4y ago
      > Example of a hateful post of a white person? Here are some examples I've collected: https://freeimage.host/a/pre-musk-twitter-racism.f55mv https://freeimage.host/a/pre-musk-twitter-racism.f55mv Franklin is left-wing in the modern sense, which is more about social politics than distribution of money. I didn't mean to imply that he was a socialist. Sorry for the confusion.
      - skinnymuch 4y ago
        Franklin would probably be offended like you with your example. Classic lib take. (A) You incorrectly insulted leftists. (B) You used Franklin, a huge liberal (like yourself), to make your point. Franklin knows jack shit about politics. (C) You incorrectly stated leftist in the modern sense means liberal. I’m American. I know there’s a world outside the right-wing brain rotted USA. (D) You incorrectly stated modern leftism is more about social politics. The control of the means of production and thus surplus value going to capitalists vs workers is Capitalism 101. The analogue of the GOP are the Torys in the UK and the Liberal Party in AU. They are huge liberals. Reagan and the Tory leader of the 80s, Thatcher, ushered in neoliberalism. You should educate yourself before incorrectly insulting leftist ideology. You sound like a Ben Shapiro or Bill Maher NPC trying to “own the libs”. I shouldn’t have to teach you basic politics.
- p1necone 4y ago
  > Leftists don’t believe in private for profit corporations. The left of the political spectrum in the USA is mostly to the right of actual communism.
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    Hahaha that’s true.