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If you go back to Musk deal, it was immediately after Babylon bee was banned for an anti trans remark about man of the year. I'm speculating a bit, and I'm not

If you go back to Musk deal, it was immediately after Babylon bee was banned for an anti trans remark about man of the year. I'm speculating a bit, and I'm not supporting his actions, I'm trying to explain then. I think he already had disagreement with his son that came out as trans later, and I think the major reason he changed his political position is because of his child. The child also cut all ties with him. He said "The woke mind virus must be destroyed, nothing else matters". It's not Elon the entrepreneur, or Elon the management genius, or even Elon the troll on social media. What's really driving him is Elon the father that views leftism and woke as a mind virus that had possessed his child. When you reach that position as a father, there's no loyalty to old political parties, there's no choosing words carefully or looking at Twitter as a regular business. This is a person who could not care much about ideology until ideology reached his house and destroyed it - and only at that point he actually started fighting the fight. He treats Twitter and leftists as the enemies because in his mind they are enemies, enemies that managed to destroy his child. It might seem inconceivable that someone might change his position so radically, and surprise everyone, but that's because they don't understand the real motivation. Anyway, I'm not supporting his actions, this is meant to empathize with him so I'll understand what's going on and where all this is coming from, and therefore, where is it going.

acdha 4y ago
> This is a person who could not care much about ideology until ideology reached his house and destroyed it I think this is made all the more powerful by being imaginary: if there really was some organized group he'd at least have some way of knowing who’s in it or what they do. Since it’s basically a conspiracy theory driven by not wanting to consider what he could have done differently, there’s nothing falsifiable, he can find signs of it almost anywhere, and anyone who tries to talk him out of it is suddenly a traitor. Since his son was trans, there’s an entire preexisting opposition group all ready to provide reassurance any time his faith wavers, too.
spamizbad 4y ago
He should sit down with some conservative Christian parents and ask them if the culture wars un-gay’d their children. Anyway I’m not inclined to believe this given that he’s cozied up to people who are openly hostile to trans people (calling them groomers etc) rather than “Trans people deserve our love and support but actually are just confused we can fix them!”
bentcorner 4y ago
> What's really driving him is Elon the father that views leftism and woke as a mind virus that had possessed his child. I don't think this is his motivation, because if it was, this isn't how he'd go about doing it. I mean, maybe it is - but if so, he's doing a lousy job affecting any kind of change in his child. I suppose that's on brand for him. Personally I think he doesn't give a fuck about anything because $$ and just does whatever comes to mind (cf. his twitter poll about stepping down).
- machina_ex_deus 4y ago
  That's maybe not how you would react. But it's a classical response - when under attack, identify enemies, and attack back. It takes a certain kind of social intellect to understand which actions will actually psychologically affect someone for the better. Does he consciously tie his actions directly to this? Or is it indirectly, by getting very negative emotions and associations to leftism, which are then turned into this culture war?
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    It is probably the first problem in Elon's life that did not go away with some money thrown at it.
lancesells 4y ago
According to my search Musk has 10 kids. According to him he works something like 18 hours a day. He seems to maybe spend a lot of his time browsing and using Twitter.
- andrepd 4y ago
  According to myself I work 26 hours a day and go to work barefoot, uphill both ways. :3
justatdotin 4y ago
> ideology reached his house and destroyed it wat? no.
vobbins 4y ago
licebmi__at__ 4y ago
>I'm speculating a bit, and I'm not supporting his actions, I'm trying to explain then. I think he already had disagreement with his son that came out as trans later, and I think the major reason he changed his political position is because of his child. The child also cut all ties with him. Maybe, but I find it more likely that his child cut ties with him because he was always fucking awful.
- mcv 4y ago
  That's probably the child's perspective, and not one that Musk shares. He will prefer to reject the idea that he was always fucking awful, and instead prefers the idea that his child was taken from him by a "woke mind virus".

acdha 4y ago

> This is a person who could not care much about ideology until ideology reached his house and destroyed it I think this is made all the more powerful by being imaginary: if there really was some organized group he'd at least have some way of knowing who’s in it or what they do. Since it’s basically a conspiracy theory driven by not wanting to consider what he could have done differently, there’s nothing falsifiable, he can find signs of it almost anywhere, and anyone who tries to talk him out of it is suddenly a traitor. Since his son was trans, there’s an entire preexisting opposition group all ready to provide reassurance any time his faith wavers, too.

spamizbad 4y ago

He should sit down with some conservative Christian parents and ask them if the culture wars un-gay’d their children. Anyway I’m not inclined to believe this given that he’s cozied up to people who are openly hostile to trans people (calling them groomers etc) rather than “Trans people deserve our love and support but actually are just confused we can fix them!”

bentcorner 4y ago

> What's really driving him is Elon the father that views leftism and woke as a mind virus that had possessed his child. I don't think this is his motivation, because if it was, this isn't how he'd go about doing it. I mean, maybe it is - but if so, he's doing a lousy job affecting any kind of change in his child. I suppose that's on brand for him. Personally I think he doesn't give a fuck about anything because $$ and just does whatever comes to mind (cf. his twitter poll about stepping down).

machina_ex_deus 4y ago
That's maybe not how you would react. But it's a classical response - when under attack, identify enemies, and attack back. It takes a certain kind of social intellect to understand which actions will actually psychologically affect someone for the better. Does he consciously tie his actions directly to this? Or is it indirectly, by getting very negative emotions and associations to leftism, which are then turned into this culture war?
- jacquesm 4y ago
  It is probably the first problem in Elon's life that did not go away with some money thrown at it.

lancesells 4y ago

According to my search Musk has 10 kids. According to him he works something like 18 hours a day. He seems to maybe spend a lot of his time browsing and using Twitter.

andrepd 4y ago
According to myself I work 26 hours a day and go to work barefoot, uphill both ways. :3

justatdotin 4y ago

> ideology reached his house and destroyed it wat? no.

vobbins 4y ago

licebmi__at__ 4y ago

>I'm speculating a bit, and I'm not supporting his actions, I'm trying to explain then. I think he already had disagreement with his son that came out as trans later, and I think the major reason he changed his political position is because of his child. The child also cut all ties with him. Maybe, but I find it more likely that his child cut ties with him because he was always fucking awful.

mcv 4y ago
That's probably the child's perspective, and not one that Musk shares. He will prefer to reject the idea that he was always fucking awful, and instead prefers the idea that his child was taken from him by a "woke mind virus".