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Am I cynical in thinking that if you vote yes, it’s a permanent record on your Twitter account, which he can then use later to mete out anti-musk retaliation pu

Am I cynical in thinking that if you vote yes, it’s a permanent record on your Twitter account, which he can then use later to mete out anti-musk retaliation punishments? I mean, it’s not like he’s used the platform to do punish anyone who opposes him or his views before. Maybe I’m reading by too much into it.

rsynnott 4y ago
I mean, what's he going to do, set Roko's Basilisk on you?
- boppo1 4y ago
  No, you just did that to him.
  - PartiallyTyped 4y ago
    I wouldn't be surprised if GP gets flagged by > 0 people.
    - rsynnott 4y ago
      Or... entities. (I'm unsure of the fine detail of the cosmology of the weirder long-termists, but surely there is some sort of counter-basilisk)
- notahacker 4y ago
  Now that you mention it, Twitter is suspiciously effective at torturing Elon and his clone army, and it keeps him too busy to save the world from unfriendly AI. Maybe it is the Basilisk...
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  Good god, I didn't realize there was a Musk connection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk#Legacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk#Legacy The thought experiment resurfaced in 2015, when Canadian singer Grimes referenced the theory in her music video for the song "Flesh Without Blood", which featured a character known as "Rococo Basilisk". She said, "She's doomed to be eternally tortured by an artificial intelligence, but she's also kind of like Marie Antoinette."[6][20] In 2018 Elon Musk referenced this in a verbatim tweet, reaching out to her. Grimes later said that Musk was the first person in three years to understand the joke. This caused them to start a romance.[6][28] Grimes later released another song titled "We Appreciate Power" which came with a press release stating, "Simply by listening to this song, the future General AI overlords will see that you’ve supported their message and be less likely to delete your offspring", which is said to be a reference to the basilisk.[29]
maxerickson 4y ago
If that's how Twitter ends up being run it's nice and tidy to have that particular information on your permanent record.
wmf 4y ago
Oh please please Elon give me a brown check because I voted against you.
zenexer 4y ago
If he’s doing such things, then it’s not a platform worth staying on anyway.
pantalaimon 4y ago
I think he very much expects people to vote yes. He clearly has no idea how to run Twitter and this gives him a way to get out of this disaster while still somewhat saving face.
- akoncius 4y ago
  I want to vote "keep Musk as CEO" just to give him more rope
  - PartiallyTyped 4y ago
    I am enjoying the drama tbh. Internet hasn't felt this interesting in a while.
  - u320 4y ago
    I believe the majority of "No" votes are people thinking like this.
    - tdehnel 4y ago
      “There is no logical reason for someone to disagree with me.”
lapcat 4y ago
There are currently almost a million Yes votes, so you'll have to stand in a very long line for your punishment.
- alamortsubite 4y ago
  Maybe not if you also happen to be a SpaceX, Tesla, or Twitter employee.
  - lapcat 4y ago
    The majority of Twitter employees have already been punished, i.e., fired.
- 1270018080 4y ago
  I bet a cron job shadowbanning people could run through 1 million user ids pretty quick.
  - lapcat 4y ago
    This makes Twitter Blue a hard sell. He can "Twitter punish" his detractors all he wants, but that won't help him keep Twitter alive financially.
krisoft 4y ago
I am even more cynical and I think he wants an out without loosing (more) face. He hopes he will get a vote telling him to leave and then he can say people have spoken.
latency-guy2 4y ago
Sure it's associated to you, and yes it's permanent in the lifetime that this particular record is remembered and/or useful. It is also not farfetched for Twitter or really any website similar to it like FB, Reddit, etc. to punish people who only upvote or like comments/posts, no other engagement otherwise. I don't really see a problem here that was not already a problem before. I am also not going to lie, I think social media as a whole is really not that big of a deal. I know many people have built businesses through social media and benefit from it, but businesses live and die naturally everyday, don't put your eggs into one basket. I know some people that had some level of popularity on LiveJournal, they all survived it's death. You will too.
techolic 4y ago
I invite you to review Mao's Hundred Flowers Campaign, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campaign
jacquesm 4y ago
Plot twist: you vote yes and in 24 hours you're banned from Twitter.

rsynnott 4y ago

I mean, what's he going to do, set Roko's Basilisk on you?

boppo1 4y ago
No, you just did that to him.
- PartiallyTyped 4y ago
  I wouldn't be surprised if GP gets flagged by > 0 people.
  - rsynnott 4y ago
    Or... entities. (I'm unsure of the fine detail of the cosmology of the weirder long-termists, but surely there is some sort of counter-basilisk)
notahacker 4y ago
Now that you mention it, Twitter is suspiciously effective at torturing Elon and his clone army, and it keeps him too busy to save the world from unfriendly AI. Maybe it is the Basilisk...
DonHopkins 4y ago
Good god, I didn't realize there was a Musk connection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk#Legacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk#Legacy The thought experiment resurfaced in 2015, when Canadian singer Grimes referenced the theory in her music video for the song "Flesh Without Blood", which featured a character known as "Rococo Basilisk". She said, "She's doomed to be eternally tortured by an artificial intelligence, but she's also kind of like Marie Antoinette."[6][20] In 2018 Elon Musk referenced this in a verbatim tweet, reaching out to her. Grimes later said that Musk was the first person in three years to understand the joke. This caused them to start a romance.[6][28] Grimes later released another song titled "We Appreciate Power" which came with a press release stating, "Simply by listening to this song, the future General AI overlords will see that you’ve supported their message and be less likely to delete your offspring", which is said to be a reference to the basilisk.[29]

maxerickson 4y ago

If that's how Twitter ends up being run it's nice and tidy to have that particular information on your permanent record.

wmf 4y ago

Oh please please Elon give me a brown check because I voted against you.

zenexer 4y ago

If he’s doing such things, then it’s not a platform worth staying on anyway.

pantalaimon 4y ago

I think he very much expects people to vote yes. He clearly has no idea how to run Twitter and this gives him a way to get out of this disaster while still somewhat saving face.

akoncius 4y ago
I want to vote "keep Musk as CEO" just to give him more rope
- PartiallyTyped 4y ago
  I am enjoying the drama tbh. Internet hasn't felt this interesting in a while.
- u320 4y ago
  I believe the majority of "No" votes are people thinking like this.
  - tdehnel 4y ago
    “There is no logical reason for someone to disagree with me.”

lapcat 4y ago

There are currently almost a million Yes votes, so you'll have to stand in a very long line for your punishment.

alamortsubite 4y ago
Maybe not if you also happen to be a SpaceX, Tesla, or Twitter employee.
- lapcat 4y ago
  The majority of Twitter employees have already been punished, i.e., fired.
1270018080 4y ago
I bet a cron job shadowbanning people could run through 1 million user ids pretty quick.
- lapcat 4y ago
  This makes Twitter Blue a hard sell. He can "Twitter punish" his detractors all he wants, but that won't help him keep Twitter alive financially.

krisoft 4y ago

I am even more cynical and I think he wants an out without loosing (more) face. He hopes he will get a vote telling him to leave and then he can say people have spoken.

latency-guy2 4y ago

Sure it's associated to you, and yes it's permanent in the lifetime that this particular record is remembered and/or useful. It is also not farfetched for Twitter or really any website similar to it like FB, Reddit, etc. to punish people who only upvote or like comments/posts, no other engagement otherwise. I don't really see a problem here that was not already a problem before. I am also not going to lie, I think social media as a whole is really not that big of a deal. I know many people have built businesses through social media and benefit from it, but businesses live and die naturally everyday, don't put your eggs into one basket. I know some people that had some level of popularity on LiveJournal, they all survived it's death. You will too.

techolic 4y ago

I invite you to review Mao's Hundred Flowers Campaign, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campaign

jacquesm 4y ago

Plot twist: you vote yes and in 24 hours you're banned from Twitter.