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Funny you mention Windows and Office. Office is getting worse while moving to a subscription model, while Windows is getting worse by moving towards ads.

by phrom 4y ago

paultopia 4y ago
Although TBF office and windows have gotten worse with every version at least since the 1990s.
- vel0city 4y ago
  Yeah Excel 3.0 had much better cloud multi-user editing support. It really only went downhill after Excel 5.0 came out with this whole VBA nonsense in '93. Unnecessary bloat, really just showcasing the fact Microst doesn't know what it's users actually want. Excel today is way better than the Excel I used in the 90s. I wouldn't trade it for a moment.
- andylynch 4y ago
  They ruined office with … removing Excel’s 64k row limit, better file format, collaborative editing and better data analysis functions?
  - paultopia 4y ago
    If you're using a tool like excel to work with data with more than 64,000 rows or analyze data, or if you're collaboratively editing a dataset in a non-version-controlled format... best of luck to you, I'll send flowers to your widow.
    - andylynch 4y ago
      It’s great for what it does. You might be surprised at how your bank and accountant get stuff done.
phendrenad2 4y ago
That hasn't been my experience. Windows 11 has more features any any version before it, and same goes for Office.
- janlaureys 4y ago
  More features is not a great indicator of quality.
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Wi... Support for Android apps sounds nice, but you can't even reposition the taskbar anymore.
  - phendrenad2 4y ago
    I'll gladly sacrifice the second list for the first list.
- Ylpertnodi 4y ago
  Funny, I wasn't thinking the same when I installed the Old Classic Calc[ulator]. https://winaero.com/classic-calculator-windows-10-creators/ https://winaero.com/classic-calculator-windows-10-creators/ How can you f* up a simple calculator on a very complex one?

Funny you mention Windows and Office. Office is getting worse while moving to a subscription model, while Windows is getting worse by moving towards ads.

by phrom 4y ago

Funny you mention Windows and Office. Office is getting worse while moving to a subscription model, while Windows is getting worse by moving towards ads.

paultopia 4y ago

Although TBF office and windows have gotten worse with every version at least since the 1990s.

vel0city 4y ago
Yeah Excel 3.0 had much better cloud multi-user editing support. It really only went downhill after Excel 5.0 came out with this whole VBA nonsense in '93. Unnecessary bloat, really just showcasing the fact Microst doesn't know what it's users actually want. Excel today is way better than the Excel I used in the 90s. I wouldn't trade it for a moment.
andylynch 4y ago
They ruined office with … removing Excel’s 64k row limit, better file format, collaborative editing and better data analysis functions?
- paultopia 4y ago
  If you're using a tool like excel to work with data with more than 64,000 rows or analyze data, or if you're collaboratively editing a dataset in a non-version-controlled format... best of luck to you, I'll send flowers to your widow.
  - andylynch 4y ago
    It’s great for what it does. You might be surprised at how your bank and accountant get stuff done.

phendrenad2 4y ago

That hasn't been my experience. Windows 11 has more features any any version before it, and same goes for Office.

janlaureys 4y ago
More features is not a great indicator of quality.
hypertele-Xii 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Wi... Support for Android apps sounds nice, but you can't even reposition the taskbar anymore.
- phendrenad2 4y ago
  I'll gladly sacrifice the second list for the first list.
Ylpertnodi 4y ago
Funny, I wasn't thinking the same when I installed the Old Classic Calc[ulator]. https://winaero.com/classic-calculator-windows-10-creators/ https://winaero.com/classic-calculator-windows-10-creators/ How can you f* up a simple calculator on a very complex one?