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Apt updates itself if you instruct it to, the updates also won't restart anything by themselves. I don't think unattended upgrades are enabled on debian or on u

Apt updates itself if you instruct it to, the updates also won't restart anything by themselves. I don't think unattended upgrades are enabled on debian or on ubuntu.

bombolo 4y ago
I think they might be in ubuntu server installations. I think they aren't enabled by default on debian… at least not on my installs.
- f1refly 4y ago
  I have a bunch of ubuntu containers at work, none of them self update by default, I know that because I had to enable unattended upgrades manually in all of them. Maybe it's a lxc template thing?
  - bombolo 4y ago
    If you got them from dockerhub or similar… that's not a default ubuntu install.
bragr 4y ago
>also won't restart anything by themselves Is it very not true? Apt restarts processes and services all the time during upgrades.
- tssva 4y ago
  Apt always prompts me as to which services I want to restart following an upgrade.
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pmontra 4y ago
When Firefox is updated by apt on 20.04, it keeps working until I open a new tab. Then it shows a page asking me to restart the browser and won't do anything else until I comply. This is a choice of Mozilla. When Ubuntu prompts me to restart the system after an update I can dismiss the dialog even for weeks, but at a certain point the cumulative updates start making the system behave erratically and I have to restart. Probably kernel, drivers, libc, other vital stuff get too much disaligned.
- ElectricalUnion 4y ago
  > When Firefox is updated by apt on 20.04, it keeps working until I open a new tab. Then it shows a page asking me to restart the browser and won't do anything else until I comply. This is a choice of Mozilla. Parts of the program were updated and now the program is in a not tested, half-updated, half-old state. The "other choice" for Mozilla is pretending nothing happened, attempt to open the tab, probably immediatly segfaulting and losing all your current work in a potentially unrecoverable way. Not really a good choice under most circunstances.
  - pmontra 4y ago
    It started doing that only a few months ago. Apparently it worked in the half updated state before then but of course the implementation and the update process could have changed.
mmis1000 4y ago
> I don't think unattended upgrades are enabled on debian or on ubuntu. I don't think it's true, I had the disable unintended upgrade on Ubuntu because it runs cpu at 100% and make very big noise at night.

Apt updates itself if you instruct it to, the updates also won't restart anything by themselves. I don't think unattended upgrades are enabled on debian or on ubuntu.

bombolo 4y ago

I think they might be in ubuntu server installations. I think they aren't enabled by default on debian… at least not on my installs.

f1refly 4y ago
I have a bunch of ubuntu containers at work, none of them self update by default, I know that because I had to enable unattended upgrades manually in all of them. Maybe it's a lxc template thing?
- bombolo 4y ago
  If you got them from dockerhub or similar… that's not a default ubuntu install.

bragr 4y ago

>also won't restart anything by themselves Is it very not true? Apt restarts processes and services all the time during upgrades.

tssva 4y ago
Apt always prompts me as to which services I want to restart following an upgrade.

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pmontra 4y ago

When Firefox is updated by apt on 20.04, it keeps working until I open a new tab. Then it shows a page asking me to restart the browser and won't do anything else until I comply. This is a choice of Mozilla. When Ubuntu prompts me to restart the system after an update I can dismiss the dialog even for weeks, but at a certain point the cumulative updates start making the system behave erratically and I have to restart. Probably kernel, drivers, libc, other vital stuff get too much disaligned.

ElectricalUnion 4y ago
> When Firefox is updated by apt on 20.04, it keeps working until I open a new tab. Then it shows a page asking me to restart the browser and won't do anything else until I comply. This is a choice of Mozilla. Parts of the program were updated and now the program is in a not tested, half-updated, half-old state. The "other choice" for Mozilla is pretending nothing happened, attempt to open the tab, probably immediatly segfaulting and losing all your current work in a potentially unrecoverable way. Not really a good choice under most circunstances.
- pmontra 4y ago
  It started doing that only a few months ago. Apparently it worked in the half updated state before then but of course the implementation and the update process could have changed.

mmis1000 4y ago

> I don't think unattended upgrades are enabled on debian or on ubuntu. I don't think it's true, I had the disable unintended upgrade on Ubuntu because it runs cpu at 100% and make very big noise at night.