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"Latine" (with a long e) or just "Latin" works fairly well in the language if one absolutely must avoid the collective-o ending, as in "Latine intelligente." St
by kortex 4y ago
"Latine" (with a long e) or just "Latin" works fairly well in the language if one absolutely must avoid the collective-o ending, as in "Latine intelligente." Still a tad awkward, but leagues better than "Latinx", which is such a blatant violation of Spanish phonotactics and aesthetics that it bugs me, a white AF grigo.
"Latinx" was so obviously created by an English-primary speaker.
- bitwize 4y agoI think that is kind of the point. The out-of-place x, by its very incongruousness, calls attention to and centers the LGBTQ constituent. You see it even with English words of Germanic origin, like spelling "folks" as "folx" or "women" as "womxn".
- gallopingcomp 4y agoNitpick: This may be true of “folx” and “Latinx”, but “womxn” (despite sometimes-similar connotations) seems to have originated as a way to highlight/signal feminism, and has only acquired queer connotations recently.
- bitwize 4y agoI'm aware of the form "womyn" from the 90s, but "womxn" appears to be more recent, and differentiated from "womyn" by its explicit inclusion of trans women and woman-like nonbinary people. Edit: Wikipedia traces "womxn" back to the 1970s, but it seems unlike "womyn" it didn't get much currency in ordinary feminist usage, only finding purchase when the queer angle was added.
- Manuel_D 4y agoHere's my suggestion: if you're an English speaker just say "Latin". Don't use any gendered suffix. It's literally the same word as "Latino" but in English. You don't call Italians "Italianx" or "Italiane" right? You just say "Italian". In context, nobody is going to mix up a conversation about modern Latin people and the ancient world.
- hedora 4y agoHispanic is offensive because it focuses on the subjugation of the indigenous people by the Spanish Empire. Latinx is much better. It (1) avoids acknowledging that Spain was once a world power, (2) intentionally introduces an unwanted misspelling of a common Spanish word that accentuates the Castilian lisp (3) intentionally misgenders the vast majority of people from those regions and (4) denies the existence of non-European South American languages and cultures.
- ice3 4y agoIs this a reply by ChatGPT?
- anhner 4y agoI laughed at your reply, but not so long ago (though before ChatGPT) I got downvoted to hell for asking a very similar question...
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- quickthrowman 4y ago> Hispanic is offensive because it focuses on the subjugation of the indigenous people by the Spanish Empire. Let’s rewind 900 more years to the 5th/6th century and play madlibs: “English (demonym) is offensive because it focuses on the subjugation of the Romano-British people by the Angles.” Does this example still fit, or is it too far back in history to be offensive?
- kortex 4y agoGemany^W Allemagne^W Tyskland^W Saksa^W Németország^W Deutschland would like a word.
- kazinator 4y agoExcept for the part that the people being named speak a dialect of Spanish, not Latin. So as soon as you have to discuss what they speak, you're bringing in Spain.