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Except as a user, the next version had to be better, or I wouldn't pay for it. Now they can just downgrade my product, and I have to continue paying for it.

by Kuinox 4y ago

flandish 4y ago
Like what happened with Stronglifts 5x5.. yep.
- gog 4y ago
  What happened? Isn't that just a body weight exercise routine?
  - BenjiWiebe 4y ago
    I don't know anything about it, besides knowing that my dad and brother used to use that app but switched away from it for some reason.
  - flandish 4y ago
    No, but the app migrated from purchase to “life supporter” to subscription with each prior tier getting less. Now, “buy version 1.3.0” I can get not including updates post 1.3.x. But “life supporter” faded to “subscribe” after more time went by. Much like the mirc thing really. I kinda miss the days of “buy version X. Get X. X always works… tease with upgrades to get user to buy upgrade.”
    - watt 4y ago
      Of course you do. It was fantastic while it lasted. It's not a great model for software developer though. I have no idea how Beyond Compare guy (scooter software) survives, for example. I paid for it once, maybe 10 years ago? He should've taken more money. I paid for Sublime Merge, but it's nowhere as useful or great (so far) as Beyond Compare.
phendrenad2 4y ago
And no non-subscription software company has ever gone out of business, and deleted all download links when it did so, preventing you (as soon as you lose the installer) from ever installing it again?
- TeMPOraL 4y ago
  There are websites out there backing up every version of every software you can think of. In CD/DVD days, you'd obviously have your installation media, which the vendor couldn't retroactively take away from you. Or its backup. Later, I always kept the copy of the original installer .msi/.iso (mostly to save on download time - companies retiring products or going out of business so fast as SaaS ones do wasn't on my radar for a long time).
  - phendrenad2 4y ago
    Oh no! Don't trust those websites. This is how people get viruses.

Except as a user, the next version had to be better, or I wouldn't pay for it. Now they can just downgrade my product, and I have to continue paying for it.

by Kuinox 4y ago

Except as a user, the next version had to be better, or I wouldn't pay for it. Now they can just downgrade my product, and I have to continue paying for it.

flandish 4y ago

Like what happened with Stronglifts 5x5.. yep.

gog 4y ago
What happened? Isn't that just a body weight exercise routine?
- BenjiWiebe 4y ago
  I don't know anything about it, besides knowing that my dad and brother used to use that app but switched away from it for some reason.
- flandish 4y ago
  No, but the app migrated from purchase to “life supporter” to subscription with each prior tier getting less. Now, “buy version 1.3.0” I can get not including updates post 1.3.x. But “life supporter” faded to “subscribe” after more time went by. Much like the mirc thing really. I kinda miss the days of “buy version X. Get X. X always works… tease with upgrades to get user to buy upgrade.”
  - watt 4y ago
    Of course you do. It was fantastic while it lasted. It's not a great model for software developer though. I have no idea how Beyond Compare guy (scooter software) survives, for example. I paid for it once, maybe 10 years ago? He should've taken more money. I paid for Sublime Merge, but it's nowhere as useful or great (so far) as Beyond Compare.

phendrenad2 4y ago

And no non-subscription software company has ever gone out of business, and deleted all download links when it did so, preventing you (as soon as you lose the installer) from ever installing it again?

TeMPOraL 4y ago
There are websites out there backing up every version of every software you can think of. In CD/DVD days, you'd obviously have your installation media, which the vendor couldn't retroactively take away from you. Or its backup. Later, I always kept the copy of the original installer .msi/.iso (mostly to save on download time - companies retiring products or going out of business so fast as SaaS ones do wasn't on my radar for a long time).
- phendrenad2 4y ago
  Oh no! Don't trust those websites. This is how people get viruses.