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This feels disingenuous. Elon Musk was barely more than a nobody when he got involved with Tesla and started SpaceX. Fenty was founded after Rihanna had score

This feels disingenuous. Elon Musk was barely more than a nobody when he got involved with Tesla and started SpaceX. Fenty was founded after Rihanna had scored countless hits and was basically a household name.

insanitybit 4y ago
> Elon Musk was barely more than a nobody when he got involved with Tesla and started SpaceX. He was extremely wealthy and had a lot of connections from buying his way into other companies. He was not yet a household name/ global celebrity, only one in more niche (but very powerful) circles, that changed soon after.
- dnissley 4y ago
  But so were hundreds/thousands of other people, most of whom did not go on to found companies rivaling Tesla and SpaceX.
  - insanitybit 4y ago
    How many tried? Lots of people don't actually want to do that. I know lots of very wealthy people who are not at all interested in increasing their wealth or running companies or being famous.
    - inglor_cz 4y ago
      The cemetery of defunct space startups is pretty big, including the one founded by John Carmack.
  - chess_buster 4y ago
    He in fact forced the founders of Tesla out of the company to call himself founder.
    - dnissley 4y ago
      You'll see that I noted that in my original comment
  - koonsolo 4y ago
    Just look at the guys coming from paypal and see what they did. More than a few household names.
- hammock 4y ago
  You’ve completely moved the goalposts there
  - insanitybit 4y ago
    I don't see how. I said celebrity and wealth are what they have in common and what they have leveraged. Elon was wealthy before he was famous, he became famous in important circles, and eventually he became globally famous.
    - neltnerb 4y ago
      Yeah... I'm failing to see how "barely more than a nobody" can be applied to anyone who had access to lot of wealthy networks. Maybe in comparison to others in that universe, but put any one of them out in the general public and the imbalance of power is pretty obvious. If you can reasonably self-fund a startup with employees for a while, you are not a nobody and you are likely far more powerful than 95% of the population. You can literally dictate what other human beings do for 40 hours a week. That's not being a nobody...
SoftTalker 4y ago
Who is "Rihanna" ?
- proamdev123 4y ago
  Rihanna is one of the most successful musical artists of all time. Her net worth is near or at a billion dollars.
  - fragmede 4y ago
    > Robyn Fenty, known to the world as Rihanna, launched Fenty Beauty in 2017, she sought to create a cosmetics company that made “women everywhere (feel) included.” A perhaps unintended consequence: The beauty line has helped her enter one of the world’s most exclusive ranks: Billionaire. > Rihanna is now worth $1.7 billion, Forbes estimates—making her the wealthiest female musician in the world and second only to Oprah Winfrey as the richest female entertainer. But it’s not her music that’s made her so wealthy. The bulk of her fortune (an estimated $1.4 billion) comes from the value of Fenty Beauty, of which Forbes can now confirm she owns 50%. Much of the rest lies in her stake in her lingerie company, Savage x Fenty, worth an estimated $270 million, and her earnings from her career as a chart-topping musician and actress. https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2021/08/04/fentys-fortune-rihanna-is-now-officially-a-billionaire/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2021/08/04/fentys-fo... She is a business mogul in the best sense of the word, just in industries far away from here.
  - SoftTalker 4y ago
    Yeah I was being a little facetious. But not much. I have heard of her, but don't know any of her music nor her fashion brands. I probably have seen her likeness, but I have no mental image of what she looks like. I couldn't tell you the names of any of her songs or the names of her brands. I know who Musk is, I know what he does, I know about the companies he founded, I know what he looks like. All I know of Rihanna is that she is a pop star. Celebrity is very contextual.

insanitybit 4y ago

> Elon Musk was barely more than a nobody when he got involved with Tesla and started SpaceX. He was extremely wealthy and had a lot of connections from buying his way into other companies. He was not yet a household name/ global celebrity, only one in more niche (but very powerful) circles, that changed soon after.

dnissley 4y ago
But so were hundreds/thousands of other people, most of whom did not go on to found companies rivaling Tesla and SpaceX.
- insanitybit 4y ago
  How many tried? Lots of people don't actually want to do that. I know lots of very wealthy people who are not at all interested in increasing their wealth or running companies or being famous.
  - inglor_cz 4y ago
    The cemetery of defunct space startups is pretty big, including the one founded by John Carmack.
- chess_buster 4y ago
  He in fact forced the founders of Tesla out of the company to call himself founder.
  - dnissley 4y ago
    You'll see that I noted that in my original comment
- koonsolo 4y ago
  Just look at the guys coming from paypal and see what they did. More than a few household names.
hammock 4y ago
You’ve completely moved the goalposts there
- insanitybit 4y ago
  I don't see how. I said celebrity and wealth are what they have in common and what they have leveraged. Elon was wealthy before he was famous, he became famous in important circles, and eventually he became globally famous.
  - neltnerb 4y ago
    Yeah... I'm failing to see how "barely more than a nobody" can be applied to anyone who had access to lot of wealthy networks. Maybe in comparison to others in that universe, but put any one of them out in the general public and the imbalance of power is pretty obvious. If you can reasonably self-fund a startup with employees for a while, you are not a nobody and you are likely far more powerful than 95% of the population. You can literally dictate what other human beings do for 40 hours a week. That's not being a nobody...

SoftTalker 4y ago

Who is "Rihanna" ?

proamdev123 4y ago
Rihanna is one of the most successful musical artists of all time. Her net worth is near or at a billion dollars.
- fragmede 4y ago
  > Robyn Fenty, known to the world as Rihanna, launched Fenty Beauty in 2017, she sought to create a cosmetics company that made “women everywhere (feel) included.” A perhaps unintended consequence: The beauty line has helped her enter one of the world’s most exclusive ranks: Billionaire. > Rihanna is now worth $1.7 billion, Forbes estimates—making her the wealthiest female musician in the world and second only to Oprah Winfrey as the richest female entertainer. But it’s not her music that’s made her so wealthy. The bulk of her fortune (an estimated $1.4 billion) comes from the value of Fenty Beauty, of which Forbes can now confirm she owns 50%. Much of the rest lies in her stake in her lingerie company, Savage x Fenty, worth an estimated $270 million, and her earnings from her career as a chart-topping musician and actress. https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2021/08/04/fentys-fortune-rihanna-is-now-officially-a-billionaire/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2021/08/04/fentys-fo... She is a business mogul in the best sense of the word, just in industries far away from here.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  Yeah I was being a little facetious. But not much. I have heard of her, but don't know any of her music nor her fashion brands. I probably have seen her likeness, but I have no mental image of what she looks like. I couldn't tell you the names of any of her songs or the names of her brands. I know who Musk is, I know what he does, I know about the companies he founded, I know what he looks like. All I know of Rihanna is that she is a pop star. Celebrity is very contextual.