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> re-enabling known hate-speech accounts “Hate speech” is left-wing code for “someone with an opposing point of view”. Having those accounts unbanned, if noth

> re-enabling known hate-speech accounts “Hate speech” is left-wing code for “someone with an opposing point of view”. Having those accounts unbanned, if nothing else, is a healthy sign. What this thread is about though (banning outbound links to other platforms), not so much. That plain reeks of desperation.

rossjudson 4y ago
Conversely, "an opposing point of view" is right-wing code used to mask hate speech, when it occurs. Does hate speech exist? Yes. Are we in danger of overusing the term? Yes.
cmrdporcupine 4y ago
No, it's not code in this case. Many of the accounts he re-enabled were full-on white supremacists. That's not an "opposing point of view" it's beyond the pale of civilized society and we literally fought wars to defeat it last century. And the list of accounts he banned were from a list left-wing/anarchist accounts given to him by known self-proclaimed fascists. If you think that's healthy, you have problems.
UncleMeat 4y ago
"Deathcon 3 on jews" is more valuable speech than links to facebook profiles, gotcha.
- josteink 4y ago
  Uh. Did you miss the part of my comment which said that link-banning being bad? Also nice hyperbole you got there.
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    What hyperbole? We've got a policy that is link-banning while unbanning people who are holding "legally allowed opinions" (nice edit) like Mr. West and other racists.
    - josteink 4y ago
      The edit was a clarification based on your comment which was clearly misunderstanding what I was trying to say. Nothing malicious/nefarious intended. Also: while Kanye is clearly his own kind of category of crazy, what “other racists”? I don’t know a single such case.
      - optionalsquid 4y ago
        > Also: while Kanye is clearly his own kind of category of crazy, what “other racists”? > > I don’t know a single such case. One example I remember reading about was Andrew Anglin [1], the founder of The Daily Stormer [2], a website that, to save you a click, Wikipedia describes as "an American far-right, neo-Nazi, white supremacist, misogynist, Islamophobic, antisemitic, and Holocaust denial commentary and message board website that advocates for a second genocide of Jews". As his Wikipedia article [1] notes, > Anglin was banned from Twitter in 2013, but was reinstated weeks after the site was acquired by Elon Musk in 2022. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Anglin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Anglin [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Stormer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Stormer
        UncleMeat 4y ago
        Interesting that he never responded to your post.
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bfrog 4y ago
That seems to be a real boon for advertising revenue there at twitter. Just what advertisers dream of, their ad next to a post by some antisemitism/racism/lgbt hate. You just lost a large group of potential customers. Brilliant marketing strategy. Maybe if you sell flags that go on oversized pickups. About everyone else is a miss in that sort of stupidity.

rossjudson 4y ago

Conversely, "an opposing point of view" is right-wing code used to mask hate speech, when it occurs. Does hate speech exist? Yes. Are we in danger of overusing the term? Yes.

cmrdporcupine 4y ago

No, it's not code in this case. Many of the accounts he re-enabled were full-on white supremacists. That's not an "opposing point of view" it's beyond the pale of civilized society and we literally fought wars to defeat it last century. And the list of accounts he banned were from a list left-wing/anarchist accounts given to him by known self-proclaimed fascists. If you think that's healthy, you have problems.

UncleMeat 4y ago

"Deathcon 3 on jews" is more valuable speech than links to facebook profiles, gotcha.

josteink 4y ago
Uh. Did you miss the part of my comment which said that link-banning being bad? Also nice hyperbole you got there.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  What hyperbole? We've got a policy that is link-banning while unbanning people who are holding "legally allowed opinions" (nice edit) like Mr. West and other racists.
  - josteink 4y ago
    The edit was a clarification based on your comment which was clearly misunderstanding what I was trying to say. Nothing malicious/nefarious intended. Also: while Kanye is clearly his own kind of category of crazy, what “other racists”? I don’t know a single such case.
    - optionalsquid 4y ago
      > Also: while Kanye is clearly his own kind of category of crazy, what “other racists”? > > I don’t know a single such case. One example I remember reading about was Andrew Anglin [1], the founder of The Daily Stormer [2], a website that, to save you a click, Wikipedia describes as "an American far-right, neo-Nazi, white supremacist, misogynist, Islamophobic, antisemitic, and Holocaust denial commentary and message board website that advocates for a second genocide of Jews". As his Wikipedia article [1] notes, > Anglin was banned from Twitter in 2013, but was reinstated weeks after the site was acquired by Elon Musk in 2022. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Anglin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Anglin [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Stormer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Stormer
      - UncleMeat 4y ago
        Interesting that he never responded to your post.
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bfrog 4y ago

That seems to be a real boon for advertising revenue there at twitter. Just what advertisers dream of, their ad next to a post by some antisemitism/racism/lgbt hate. You just lost a large group of potential customers. Brilliant marketing strategy. Maybe if you sell flags that go on oversized pickups. About everyone else is a miss in that sort of stupidity.