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Agreed. It was a genuine, high intensity game. No diving, no risk-averse passes for minutes, no BS. It was a proper world cup final.

tim333 4y ago
The first penalty looked a bit iffy diving wise https://www.tiktok.com/@mishary.19/video/7178520312630267137?_d=dhm7eg3224dklc&_r=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7178520312630267137&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_iid=7164773662556604165&share_item_id=7178520312630267137&share_link_id=e1b31293-7386-43a6-8b7f-e1d3dd7a7095&source=h5_m&timestamp=1671389162&u_code=0&ug_btm=b2001&ugbiz_name=Main&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=instagram_dm https://www.tiktok.com/@mishary.19/video/7178520312630267137...
- fspeech 4y ago
  This doesn't give context at all. Dembele was just completely beaten. He then made contact with Di Maria from behind when there was no chance he was playing for ball. Sure the referee didn't have to call penalty but it was fair he did. A more obvious interference could have resulted in a red card.
magarnicle 4y ago
Helped by the ref being excellent.
markdog12 4y ago
> No diving By what standard was there "No diving"? Do you mean by the standard of "they all dive all of the time, so this wasn't bad relative to that"? As someone who doesn't watch soccer, saying there was "No diving" beggars belief.
- dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
  What we call diving is likely not what someone who doesn't watch soccer would recognize as diving. It's pretty common to overdramatize fouls to get the ref to stop the game, and it's pretty accepted (although obviously extra points if you don't). This isn't actually diving but is sometimes colloquially referred to as such even by people who know better. What's actually a foul is diving when no one fouled you, which is what one of the French players did this game inside the penalty box. He got a yellow for it. The ref, besides spotting that in a split-second (impressive), was also very good at keeping the action going and only stopping if he saw an actual foul. One does wish for less dramatization overall but you have to remember that if you keep playing the ref can rule that you did not wish to take the free kick. This is allowed since it's sometimes more advantageous. The rule is quite literally called advantage, and you don't want to take it unless it makes sense, although the ref usually makes a judgement call after a couple seconds. Still..
j7ake 4y ago
Factually untrue regarding no diving. The ref gave a yellow card to France for diving in the penalty box.
kramerger 4y ago
> No diving, ... Did you not see the first penalty?? That was a Neymar class performance worthy of a Fallon d'Floor award.

tim333 4y ago

The first penalty looked a bit iffy diving wise https://www.tiktok.com/@mishary.19/video/7178520312630267137?_d=dhm7eg3224dklc&_r=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7178520312630267137&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_iid=7164773662556604165&share_item_id=7178520312630267137&share_link_id=e1b31293-7386-43a6-8b7f-e1d3dd7a7095&source=h5_m&timestamp=1671389162&u_code=0&ug_btm=b2001&ugbiz_name=Main&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=instagram_dm https://www.tiktok.com/@mishary.19/video/7178520312630267137...

fspeech 4y ago
This doesn't give context at all. Dembele was just completely beaten. He then made contact with Di Maria from behind when there was no chance he was playing for ball. Sure the referee didn't have to call penalty but it was fair he did. A more obvious interference could have resulted in a red card.

magarnicle 4y ago

Helped by the ref being excellent.

markdog12 4y ago

> No diving By what standard was there "No diving"? Do you mean by the standard of "they all dive all of the time, so this wasn't bad relative to that"? As someone who doesn't watch soccer, saying there was "No diving" beggars belief.

dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
What we call diving is likely not what someone who doesn't watch soccer would recognize as diving. It's pretty common to overdramatize fouls to get the ref to stop the game, and it's pretty accepted (although obviously extra points if you don't). This isn't actually diving but is sometimes colloquially referred to as such even by people who know better. What's actually a foul is diving when no one fouled you, which is what one of the French players did this game inside the penalty box. He got a yellow for it. The ref, besides spotting that in a split-second (impressive), was also very good at keeping the action going and only stopping if he saw an actual foul. One does wish for less dramatization overall but you have to remember that if you keep playing the ref can rule that you did not wish to take the free kick. This is allowed since it's sometimes more advantageous. The rule is quite literally called advantage, and you don't want to take it unless it makes sense, although the ref usually makes a judgement call after a couple seconds. Still..

j7ake 4y ago

Factually untrue regarding no diving. The ref gave a yellow card to France for diving in the penalty box.

kramerger 4y ago

> No diving, ... Did you not see the first penalty?? That was a Neymar class performance worthy of a Fallon d'Floor award.