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This is his Mastodon account: https://mas.to/@paulg/with_replies https://mas.to/@paulg/with_replies His first toots remind me of his first tweets: https://tw

by TekMol 4y ago

This is his Mastodon account: https://mas.to/@paulg/with_replies https://mas.to/@paulg/with_replies His first toots remind me of his first tweets: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22300310058 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22300310058 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22307238459 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22307238459

yunohn 4y ago
First time I’m using Mastodon, and it’s incredibly slow. Is the app any faster than the web app?
- bennyp101 4y ago
  There’s another exodus of twitter users, and most servers are run by individuals, give them time or run your own instance and federate
  - rvz 4y ago
    > There’s another exodus of twitter users, and most servers are run by individuals Again, Expecting non-techies to self-host their own instances after several of them falling over due to light usage and signups is quite wishful thinking and reiterates the need for users to heavily rely on more centralized instances to on board users. Well all know what happened to mastodon.technology which was run by an individual. It doesn't look smart to sit on an instance that can barely handle hundreds of thousands of users signing up at once and ends up folding up. > give them time or run your own instance and federate Yeah, the journalists at journa.host has never been more alive for journalists and is going just great with a much better reach than Twitter [1] /s. [0] https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/ https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/ [1] https://twitter.com/ajaromano/status/1594432548222152705 https://twitter.com/ajaromano/status/1594432548222152705
    - ssnistfajen 4y ago
      Decentrialized network doesn't mean every node is equal in size. Natural user behaviour will still aggregate onto a few larger servers. That's completely normal. Mastodon wasn't meant to be a 100% replica of Twitter nor has it ever attempted to be. The only reason it's getting such a rapid influx of users is because of Elon's sabotage.
- vijaybritto 4y ago
  Depends on the instance. I have signed up in hachyderm.io and its okay
- TekMol 4y ago
  There are many Mastodon providers, just like there are many email providers. How fast it is depends on the provider you use.
- Tepix 4y ago
  Which instance are you on? Mastodon is decentralized, there may be servers that are overloaded whereas other are fast. Like email. I haven't noticed any big differences in speed, i use both Mastodon for iOS and Pinafore (https://pinafore.social/ https://pinafore.social/ ), a PWA. Just add it to your homescreen and it will behave like a native app (and sometime in 2023 Apple has said they will add push notifications to PWAs).
- Terretta 4y ago
  It's not one app, it's many servers, individually hosted. The one paulg chose appears to be slower than, say, the one I'm using: https://mas.to/@paulg https://mas.to/@paulg https://mastodon.social/@terretta https://mastodon.social/@terretta
  - UncleOxidant 4y ago
    This. I'm on the fosstodon.org server and it seems to be holding up pretty well. That's one reason I chose it: the people running it know what they're doing.
- Pxtl 4y ago
  Mastodon is getting slammed by the twitter exodus, this is the first time it's being truly tested.
- _fizz_buzz_ 4y ago
  It's usually pretty fast for me, but I am also experiencing quite a bit of lag at the moment.
- cmrdporcupine 4y ago
  For some reason the link here points to the slowest Mastodon instance in the world. From the one I use (indieweb) it's quite fast: https://indieweb.social/@paulg@mas.to https://indieweb.social/@paulg@mas.to
  - yunohn 4y ago
    That redirects to mast.to for me?
- ssnistfajen 4y ago
  Mastodon servers are self-hosted by various groups or individuals so they aren't designed to be as scalable as Twitter. Today's events caused a large influx to pretty much every prominent server. A few ones I follow have announced they are either going down for maintenance or upgrading their servers already.
strtby 4y ago
Hug of death?
- quaintdev 4y ago
  You can try another server! https://toot.community/@paulg@mas.to https://toot.community/@paulg@mas.to That's advantage of federation!
quaintdev 4y ago
The most ridiculous problem with Mastodon I think is the fact that even if I visit his profile I can't follow him because we are on two different servers. I have to copy his profile url and paste it in my logged in instance. This then takes me to his profile where I can follow him. That's just too much work!
- shafyy 4y ago
  I hope this will be made easier in the near future. In the meantime, you can use this browser extension: https://github.com/lartsch/FediAct#installation https://github.com/lartsch/FediAct#installation
- russdill 4y ago
  It's a valid criticism. There's many browser extensions that "fix" this.
- ryukafalz 4y ago
  There's a few browser extensions that help with that. I just started using this one, it's pretty slick: https://github.com/Lartsch/FediAct https://github.com/Lartsch/FediAct The underlying problem is that browsers are not designed with this sort of federated application use case in mind, so Mastodon and friends have to do some awkward tricks to get it to work at all.
  - tekla 4y ago
    Wow, why the hell would any normie use this?
    - rvz 4y ago
      That's why you see Mastodon customer support here and on Mastodon itself by the techies here just for choosing an instance and even explaining why it is all slower than Twitter. For example: [0] Normal people do not care enough to go on a safari hunt for finding instances, user names of those claiming to have left Twitter or deleting their accounts or even bothering self-hosting just for a username on their own instance. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34042216 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34042216
jansan 4y ago
Gave up after 20 seconds waiting for the website to load. Is that supposed to be some retro 90s experience?
- ZacnyLos 4y ago
  Says the one using HNews which looks like it's from the 90's lol
  - jansan 4y ago
    HN is minimalism with less than 65kB resources to download. This is a deliberate decision, it works very well and it is usually very fast (not right now though). Mastodon on the other hand downloads 2.6MB resources to display what exactly? Some tiny images, three posts and an ad. That does not look like a winner.
    - ZacnyLos 4y ago
      You can use any ActivityPub frontend you want to see the same content, it can be very light Pleroma for example.
  - pgwhalen 4y ago
    HN loads faster than any website on the internet though.
svnpenn 4y ago
They aren't called toots anymore.

by TekMol 4y ago

yunohn 4y ago

First time I’m using Mastodon, and it’s incredibly slow. Is the app any faster than the web app?

bennyp101 4y ago
There’s another exodus of twitter users, and most servers are run by individuals, give them time or run your own instance and federate
- rvz 4y ago
  > There’s another exodus of twitter users, and most servers are run by individuals Again, Expecting non-techies to self-host their own instances after several of them falling over due to light usage and signups is quite wishful thinking and reiterates the need for users to heavily rely on more centralized instances to on board users. Well all know what happened to mastodon.technology which was run by an individual. It doesn't look smart to sit on an instance that can barely handle hundreds of thousands of users signing up at once and ends up folding up. > give them time or run your own instance and federate Yeah, the journalists at journa.host has never been more alive for journalists and is going just great with a much better reach than Twitter [1] /s. [0] https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/ https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/ [1] https://twitter.com/ajaromano/status/1594432548222152705 https://twitter.com/ajaromano/status/1594432548222152705
  - ssnistfajen 4y ago
    Decentrialized network doesn't mean every node is equal in size. Natural user behaviour will still aggregate onto a few larger servers. That's completely normal. Mastodon wasn't meant to be a 100% replica of Twitter nor has it ever attempted to be. The only reason it's getting such a rapid influx of users is because of Elon's sabotage.
vijaybritto 4y ago
Depends on the instance. I have signed up in hachyderm.io and its okay
TekMol 4y ago
There are many Mastodon providers, just like there are many email providers. How fast it is depends on the provider you use.
Tepix 4y ago
Which instance are you on? Mastodon is decentralized, there may be servers that are overloaded whereas other are fast. Like email. I haven't noticed any big differences in speed, i use both Mastodon for iOS and Pinafore (https://pinafore.social/ https://pinafore.social/ ), a PWA. Just add it to your homescreen and it will behave like a native app (and sometime in 2023 Apple has said they will add push notifications to PWAs).
Terretta 4y ago
It's not one app, it's many servers, individually hosted. The one paulg chose appears to be slower than, say, the one I'm using: https://mas.to/@paulg https://mas.to/@paulg https://mastodon.social/@terretta https://mastodon.social/@terretta
- UncleOxidant 4y ago
  This. I'm on the fosstodon.org server and it seems to be holding up pretty well. That's one reason I chose it: the people running it know what they're doing.
Pxtl 4y ago
Mastodon is getting slammed by the twitter exodus, this is the first time it's being truly tested.
_fizz_buzz_ 4y ago
It's usually pretty fast for me, but I am also experiencing quite a bit of lag at the moment.
cmrdporcupine 4y ago
For some reason the link here points to the slowest Mastodon instance in the world. From the one I use (indieweb) it's quite fast: https://indieweb.social/@paulg@mas.to https://indieweb.social/@paulg@mas.to
- yunohn 4y ago
  That redirects to mast.to for me?
ssnistfajen 4y ago
Mastodon servers are self-hosted by various groups or individuals so they aren't designed to be as scalable as Twitter. Today's events caused a large influx to pretty much every prominent server. A few ones I follow have announced they are either going down for maintenance or upgrading their servers already.

strtby 4y ago

Hug of death?

quaintdev 4y ago
You can try another server! https://toot.community/@paulg@mas.to https://toot.community/@paulg@mas.to That's advantage of federation!

quaintdev 4y ago

The most ridiculous problem with Mastodon I think is the fact that even if I visit his profile I can't follow him because we are on two different servers. I have to copy his profile url and paste it in my logged in instance. This then takes me to his profile where I can follow him. That's just too much work!

shafyy 4y ago
I hope this will be made easier in the near future. In the meantime, you can use this browser extension: https://github.com/lartsch/FediAct#installation https://github.com/lartsch/FediAct#installation
russdill 4y ago
It's a valid criticism. There's many browser extensions that "fix" this.
ryukafalz 4y ago
There's a few browser extensions that help with that. I just started using this one, it's pretty slick: https://github.com/Lartsch/FediAct https://github.com/Lartsch/FediAct The underlying problem is that browsers are not designed with this sort of federated application use case in mind, so Mastodon and friends have to do some awkward tricks to get it to work at all.
- tekla 4y ago
  Wow, why the hell would any normie use this?
  - rvz 4y ago
    That's why you see Mastodon customer support here and on Mastodon itself by the techies here just for choosing an instance and even explaining why it is all slower than Twitter. For example: [0] Normal people do not care enough to go on a safari hunt for finding instances, user names of those claiming to have left Twitter or deleting their accounts or even bothering self-hosting just for a username on their own instance. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34042216 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34042216

jansan 4y ago

Gave up after 20 seconds waiting for the website to load. Is that supposed to be some retro 90s experience?

ZacnyLos 4y ago
Says the one using HNews which looks like it's from the 90's lol
- jansan 4y ago
  HN is minimalism with less than 65kB resources to download. This is a deliberate decision, it works very well and it is usually very fast (not right now though). Mastodon on the other hand downloads 2.6MB resources to display what exactly? Some tiny images, three posts and an ad. That does not look like a winner.
  - ZacnyLos 4y ago
    You can use any ActivityPub frontend you want to see the same content, it can be very light Pleroma for example.
- pgwhalen 4y ago
  HN loads faster than any website on the internet though.

svnpenn 4y ago

They aren't called toots anymore.