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Okay let's make wild generalizations about a whole population. I spoke of two players from the French team, not French people as a whole. If I were to say anyt

Okay let's make wild generalizations about a whole population. I spoke of two players from the French team, not French people as a whole. If I were to say anything about the French team though, I'd say they deserve oscars for their fake injuries to kill the clock. Again, not speaking of French people or fans, just the team and in particular two players. Saw how Argentina's goalie celebrated and agree it was in poor taste, but that does not discredit the points made in my original post regarding their team functioning as a well oiled machine rather than separate components in an incomplete machine. What Messi said to Weghorst, hard to tell when there's one perspective given. What was reported as being said seems wildly unlikely to have sparked such a reaction. So, until more accounts from other sides are given to paint a duller picture, what was reported seems bias as hell

cryptonector 4y ago
From what Messi said immediately after, he was rather upset at some Dutch behavior (I didn't watch the game so idk what it'd have been) and also at the referee -especially at the ref- and I guess he wasn't in a sporting mood. That's too bad because t-shirt exchanges are a nice touch :(
- throwaway743 4y ago
  Yeah idk after looking into it more after the response, it seems like others are suggesting it wasn't simply the request for his shirt, but the request following bad calls by refs and provocations from the Dutch team. Who knows what all went down, but definitely not as simple as he was being asked to exchange shirts. He had to of been either instigated prior by the other team/another player or fuming from bad calls
  - cryptonector 4y ago
    He doesn't do this every time. Clearly he was animated.
- tangus 4y ago
  During the penalty shootout, where teams traditionally stay quietly on the center circle and keep to themselves, the Dutch team decided to intercept and harass the Argentine penalty takers going to the penalty stop. This kind of unsportmanship was never seen before (Dutch always innovating lol) and understandably the Argentines were quite peeved.
  - gus_massa 4y ago
    For example see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z49OiTt_b9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z49OiTt_b9s I don't understand why the referee didn't apply a yellow card.

cryptonector 4y ago

From what Messi said immediately after, he was rather upset at some Dutch behavior (I didn't watch the game so idk what it'd have been) and also at the referee -especially at the ref- and I guess he wasn't in a sporting mood. That's too bad because t-shirt exchanges are a nice touch :(

throwaway743 4y ago
Yeah idk after looking into it more after the response, it seems like others are suggesting it wasn't simply the request for his shirt, but the request following bad calls by refs and provocations from the Dutch team. Who knows what all went down, but definitely not as simple as he was being asked to exchange shirts. He had to of been either instigated prior by the other team/another player or fuming from bad calls
- cryptonector 4y ago
  He doesn't do this every time. Clearly he was animated.
tangus 4y ago
During the penalty shootout, where teams traditionally stay quietly on the center circle and keep to themselves, the Dutch team decided to intercept and harass the Argentine penalty takers going to the penalty stop. This kind of unsportmanship was never seen before (Dutch always innovating lol) and understandably the Argentines were quite peeved.
- gus_massa 4y ago
  For example see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z49OiTt_b9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z49OiTt_b9s I don't understand why the referee didn't apply a yellow card.