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It's incredibly annoying to keep hearing this word, "soccer" is an insult, the game/sport is called "football".
by Nux 4y ago
It's incredibly annoying to keep hearing this word, "soccer" is an insult, the game/sport is called "football".
- jzoch 4y agoI mean the british invented the word soccer to describe the sport. They also created the sport itself (in its modern iteration and rules).
- josephmosby 4y agoThe word "soccer" started in England as a slang of "association," which became "assocc" and then "soccer." Americans learned the word from the English. It may also surprise you to learn that water closets are called restrooms in other countries that speak English.
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- School-Cotton 4y agoThis is similar to getting upset that in various countries an apple is called “pomme”, “manzana”, “apple”, etc. Shouldn’t we call it by the name it’s called in whichever country it was first cultivated? In fact no, we shouldn’t, because different languages and dialects have different words for things, and that’s just a fact of life.
- lmm 4y agoIf you're speaking a different language, using a different word is fine. But if you presume to claim to be speaking "English", then you should use the word they use in England.
- School-Cotton 4y agoI claim to speak American English. I don’t recognize any dialect of English, including my own, as the primary one that all others have to follow, because English is a pluricentric language. I’ll never tell someone from England, Ireland, Australia, India, Zimbabwe etc. that their version of English is wrong, and they shouldn’t tell me that mine is either. This phenomenon isn’t unique to English, by the way. Every language spoken in more than one country (AFAIK) has some words that vary between countries. Your argument is a bit ridiculous IMO, it’s like saying neovim should merge every patch that gets merged to vim.
- sasattack 4y agoAnd yet you don't know that the term soccer comes from association football and was coined by the English
- lmm 4y agoI'm aware, I just don't consider it relevant.
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- lmm 4y agoI'm choosing to discard it precisely because it isn't relevant, as I said. When and where a word was coined implies nothing about what languages it is and isn't a part of today.
- School-Cotton 4y agoIndeed, but “soccer” is part of American English today. Why should we stop using a word just because people in a different country stopped using it? Is your argument really that we should speak identically to people in England, because the language happens to be called “English” ?
- lmm 4y agoI think you should either conform to English English, or treat American as a first-class language of its own (and e.g. start offering translated websites).
- jonstewart 4y agoNot in the USA it isn’t, and this website is hosted in the USA and it seems likely that at least the largest plurality, if not majority, of readers live in the USA.
- heywhatupboys 4y ago> and this website is hosted in the USA of all the arguments in the world this is the worst one. A nationalist leftover reminding us that while the internet has potential for global unity, someone will forcibly drag it down to worldly borders
- School-Cotton 4y agoYou’re the one chiding people for speaking their native language online because it differs from yours.
- plandis 4y agoNothing screams international unity quite like getting upset some people call a game soccer in their normal language.
- nickcox 4y agoThat's not really how the internet works.
- noduerme 4y ago¡Coge tu fútbol! Just means "grab your football" in Spain, but means something completely different in Argentina ;)
- amval 4y agoI don't think anyone would say that in Spain, as long as they are not having a stroke.
- permalac 4y agoVery strong stroke.
- noduerme 4y agoHah. My Spanish is riddled with errors, I admit, even though I lived in Spanish speaking countries for about 5 years. Coger is a word I just completely avoid at all costs. Terminar also. I learn mostly by public embarrassment, and patient explanation, so please tell me why it wouldn't be proper to say "pick up your football" that way?
- amval 4y agoYou are right about the "coger" (to pick up / to fuck) part. But fútbol is just the sport. You'd talk about "coger la pelota / balón". I'd assume is the same in Argentina, but I do not know that for certain.
- elondaits 4y agoIn Argentina “terminar” is OK but “acabar” (almost same meaning) is the dangerous one.
- elondaits 4y agoWe don’t call the ball itself fútbol in Argentina, only the game. The ball is la pelota.
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- sasattack 4y agoIt comes from the phrase association football. You're just ignorant it's a term that's from the same place where football was created