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As a Brazilian who watched in 1994 we get the title, lose it for France in 1998 and make it again in 2002... I saw Germany score 7x1 in Brazil in 2014... I can

As a Brazilian who watched in 1994 we get the title, lose it for France in 1998 and make it again in 2002... I saw Germany score 7x1 in Brazil in 2014... I can say this was the BEST final for a World Cup ever! Argentina totally deserved it and I was rooting for them despite all the rivalry between us. The plot twists we watched this time is just not common. It has been a long time since I watched such a good game and it will probably restore my feelings on watching football again. I think other Brazilians can say the same. Thank you all who made this possible. Disclaimer: I spent a few days in Argentina in 2011. That country and people have a special place in my heart. I learned to appreciate the sound of romance languages beyond Portuguese and took a respectful photo in Maradona's star. It is an emotional thing to see Messi make it in his last chance and Argentina get another title since 1986. Dieguito is no longer alone and I'm happy to see that in a way that is hard to explain.

azlyrics 4y ago
rebelos 4y ago
Worth noting that France was deeply unlucky. Virus hit the team just before the final. Benzema and Pogba missing. And Deschamps made some questionable decisions in my view. And Mbappe still showed up and put in one of the most heroic performances I’ve ever seen in sports, basically carrying the entire team. Really looking forward to watching his career.
- coffeebeqn 4y ago
  Benzema could have (should have) been a sub in the final - they even took Giroud out early! But in true French fashion they couldn’t get over their drama. Still it let Mbappe shine and put on a legendary show
- underdeserver 4y ago
  Also, that foul on Di Maria in the penalty box wasn't.
- agumonkey 4y ago
  MBappe did carry his weight fully, despite his status, youth and the usual pressure of a WC final. It was a honourable defeat. Surely the team was decimated, such is life.
  - mardifoufs 4y ago
    Mbappe has such an insane future if he keeps it up. He could've won his 2nd worldcup and he's only 23 years old, and has already scored more goals than almost anyone in a WC, while almost entirely carrying his team. I'm glad France lost, because they have the potential to be completely dominant for another 10 years, and that's even without mbappe.
    - 29athrowaway 4y ago
      Mbappe scored 3 goals + a penalty in a world cup final. He is an amazing player with no equal at this moment.
      - Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
        1 goal and 3 penalties.
        MonkeyClub 4y ago
        Or 1 goal and 1 penalty, the penalty executed like carbon copy three times. It was almost like kicker and goalie were working on this one execution together.
  - The_Colonel 4y ago
    MBappe scored the most goals in the WC final history (4), yet it wasn't enough.
AlchemistCamp 4y ago
Agreed! This is the most epic championship I’ve ever seen in any sport. I was watching with a French friend and cheering for them, but I’ve got to say Argentina earned it and it would have been a shame if Messi never got a cup. Mbappé’s hat trick was also an epic display that the torch is being passed to the next generation. Tonight was just about everything you could ask for in a game.
- lubujackson 4y ago
  Gotta give that one to the Patriots beating the Falcons with the (by far) biggest comeback in NFL Super Bowl history, all in the 4th quarter. It required about 8 minutes of nearly perfect play to keep their chances alive.
antihero 4y ago
After the first half it was a phenomenal game. I was in a pub in Peckham and despite people not particularly rooting either way the atmosphere was insane. Also loved that everyone booed the Qatari blokes.
- curiousgal 4y ago
  > everyone booed the Qatari blokes. I always find this hilarious, half of Canary Wharf is owned by Qataris lol
  - carnitine 4y ago
    How is it hilarious? I doubt the average English person is a massive fan of Canary Wharf and it’s owners.
    - curiousgal 4y ago
      It's hilarious because it plays a part in the UK economy and generates tax pounds. So in way or another they are not so disconnected form the people they are booing.
      - viciousvoxel 4y ago
        I really don't understand your point or your sense of humor
      - antihero 4y ago
        Yeah no we are rich property owners/developers and what they’re doing to our city. Take your money and fuck off kindly, we’ll keep our pubs.
  - antihero 4y ago
    Canary Wharf is built by the rich to serve the rich, the average Londoner at best thinks of it as kind of a dystopian novelty with big stuff.
- 4y ago
29athrowaway 4y ago
Agreed. It was a genuine, high intensity game. No diving, no risk-averse passes for minutes, no BS. It was a proper world cup final.
- tim333 4y ago
  The first penalty looked a bit iffy diving wise https://www.tiktok.com/@mishary.19/video/7178520312630267137?_d=dhm7eg3224dklc&_r=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7178520312630267137&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_iid=7164773662556604165&share_item_id=7178520312630267137&share_link_id=e1b31293-7386-43a6-8b7f-e1d3dd7a7095&source=h5_m&timestamp=1671389162&u_code=0&ug_btm=b2001&ugbiz_name=Main&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=instagram_dm https://www.tiktok.com/@mishary.19/video/7178520312630267137...
  - fspeech 4y ago
    This doesn't give context at all. Dembele was just completely beaten. He then made contact with Di Maria from behind when there was no chance he was playing for ball. Sure the referee didn't have to call penalty but it was fair he did. A more obvious interference could have resulted in a red card.
- magarnicle 4y ago
  Helped by the ref being excellent.
- markdog12 4y ago
  > No diving By what standard was there "No diving"? Do you mean by the standard of "they all dive all of the time, so this wasn't bad relative to that"? As someone who doesn't watch soccer, saying there was "No diving" beggars belief.
  - dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
    What we call diving is likely not what someone who doesn't watch soccer would recognize as diving. It's pretty common to overdramatize fouls to get the ref to stop the game, and it's pretty accepted (although obviously extra points if you don't). This isn't actually diving but is sometimes colloquially referred to as such even by people who know better. What's actually a foul is diving when no one fouled you, which is what one of the French players did this game inside the penalty box. He got a yellow for it. The ref, besides spotting that in a split-second (impressive), was also very good at keeping the action going and only stopping if he saw an actual foul. One does wish for less dramatization overall but you have to remember that if you keep playing the ref can rule that you did not wish to take the free kick. This is allowed since it's sometimes more advantageous. The rule is quite literally called advantage, and you don't want to take it unless it makes sense, although the ref usually makes a judgement call after a couple seconds. Still..
IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
Argentina were the best team by far 80 min. It just so happened that things went out of the script in the following 3 minutes, and then after we proceeded to watch quite possibly the best extra time played of all time, certainly in a final game. Best final? Possibly. But only because of the unexpected 2-2 which looked impossible in the preceding 80mins. In fact, there was only 1 team that showed up for most of the first 90mins. Had the game not gone into extra time, this would just be another lopsided game with a deserved winner. This was not a trade of blows, Rocky style. That was left for extra time :)
- AlbertCory 4y ago
  That's kind of silly. A match doesn't have to be trading blows like Rocky for the whole 90 minutes. Stuff happens. If you have a 2-0 lead, you have to protect it for the entire game. I get tired of things being proclaimed "the best ever" though. "It was really good" is plenty, unless you've watched every other one.
  - gus_massa 4y ago
    [Hi from Argentina] When it was 2-0, I expected the team to go full defense as usual in other Word Cups. I't boring because you have 10 players defending and only 1 in the other half of the field trying to use an error to make a 3rd goal. It's at the same time very boring and very nerving. I was surprise they continue attacking, and were very close to the 3rd goal.
    - AlbertCory 4y ago
      Well, congratulations, anyway. They made it exciting.
    - matheusmoreira 4y ago
      It's boring but it's better than losing like Brazil did :)
  - IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
    We are talking about the best match ever. For a game to qualify as the "best ever", there MUST be trading blows. And I don't mean like fistfights. I mean like end to end almost-goal action. And comebacks. Which is exactly what happened in extra time. Twice. And plenty of chances gone amiss NO one remembers a game that ended 1-0 with nothing else happening. Its not memorable Even if its a final.
coffeebeqn 4y ago
1994 was my first World Cup and this really felt similar from what I remember. Except the stars put in their penalties

azlyrics 4y ago

rebelos 4y ago

Worth noting that France was deeply unlucky. Virus hit the team just before the final. Benzema and Pogba missing. And Deschamps made some questionable decisions in my view. And Mbappe still showed up and put in one of the most heroic performances I’ve ever seen in sports, basically carrying the entire team. Really looking forward to watching his career.

coffeebeqn 4y ago
Benzema could have (should have) been a sub in the final - they even took Giroud out early! But in true French fashion they couldn’t get over their drama. Still it let Mbappe shine and put on a legendary show
underdeserver 4y ago
Also, that foul on Di Maria in the penalty box wasn't.
agumonkey 4y ago
MBappe did carry his weight fully, despite his status, youth and the usual pressure of a WC final. It was a honourable defeat. Surely the team was decimated, such is life.
- mardifoufs 4y ago
  Mbappe has such an insane future if he keeps it up. He could've won his 2nd worldcup and he's only 23 years old, and has already scored more goals than almost anyone in a WC, while almost entirely carrying his team. I'm glad France lost, because they have the potential to be completely dominant for another 10 years, and that's even without mbappe.
  - 29athrowaway 4y ago
    Mbappe scored 3 goals + a penalty in a world cup final. He is an amazing player with no equal at this moment.
    - Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
      1 goal and 3 penalties.
      - MonkeyClub 4y ago
        Or 1 goal and 1 penalty, the penalty executed like carbon copy three times. It was almost like kicker and goalie were working on this one execution together.
- The_Colonel 4y ago
  MBappe scored the most goals in the WC final history (4), yet it wasn't enough.

AlchemistCamp 4y ago

Agreed! This is the most epic championship I’ve ever seen in any sport. I was watching with a French friend and cheering for them, but I’ve got to say Argentina earned it and it would have been a shame if Messi never got a cup. Mbappé’s hat trick was also an epic display that the torch is being passed to the next generation. Tonight was just about everything you could ask for in a game.

lubujackson 4y ago
Gotta give that one to the Patriots beating the Falcons with the (by far) biggest comeback in NFL Super Bowl history, all in the 4th quarter. It required about 8 minutes of nearly perfect play to keep their chances alive.

antihero 4y ago

After the first half it was a phenomenal game. I was in a pub in Peckham and despite people not particularly rooting either way the atmosphere was insane. Also loved that everyone booed the Qatari blokes.

curiousgal 4y ago
> everyone booed the Qatari blokes. I always find this hilarious, half of Canary Wharf is owned by Qataris lol
- carnitine 4y ago
  How is it hilarious? I doubt the average English person is a massive fan of Canary Wharf and it’s owners.
  - curiousgal 4y ago
    It's hilarious because it plays a part in the UK economy and generates tax pounds. So in way or another they are not so disconnected form the people they are booing.
    - viciousvoxel 4y ago
      I really don't understand your point or your sense of humor
    - antihero 4y ago
      Yeah no we are rich property owners/developers and what they’re doing to our city. Take your money and fuck off kindly, we’ll keep our pubs.
- antihero 4y ago
  Canary Wharf is built by the rich to serve the rich, the average Londoner at best thinks of it as kind of a dystopian novelty with big stuff.
4y ago

29athrowaway 4y ago

Agreed. It was a genuine, high intensity game. No diving, no risk-averse passes for minutes, no BS. It was a proper world cup final.

tim333 4y ago
The first penalty looked a bit iffy diving wise https://www.tiktok.com/@mishary.19/video/7178520312630267137?_d=dhm7eg3224dklc&_r=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7178520312630267137&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_iid=7164773662556604165&share_item_id=7178520312630267137&share_link_id=e1b31293-7386-43a6-8b7f-e1d3dd7a7095&source=h5_m&timestamp=1671389162&u_code=0&ug_btm=b2001&ugbiz_name=Main&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=instagram_dm https://www.tiktok.com/@mishary.19/video/7178520312630267137...
- fspeech 4y ago
  This doesn't give context at all. Dembele was just completely beaten. He then made contact with Di Maria from behind when there was no chance he was playing for ball. Sure the referee didn't have to call penalty but it was fair he did. A more obvious interference could have resulted in a red card.
magarnicle 4y ago
Helped by the ref being excellent.
markdog12 4y ago
> No diving By what standard was there "No diving"? Do you mean by the standard of "they all dive all of the time, so this wasn't bad relative to that"? As someone who doesn't watch soccer, saying there was "No diving" beggars belief.
- dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
  What we call diving is likely not what someone who doesn't watch soccer would recognize as diving. It's pretty common to overdramatize fouls to get the ref to stop the game, and it's pretty accepted (although obviously extra points if you don't). This isn't actually diving but is sometimes colloquially referred to as such even by people who know better. What's actually a foul is diving when no one fouled you, which is what one of the French players did this game inside the penalty box. He got a yellow for it. The ref, besides spotting that in a split-second (impressive), was also very good at keeping the action going and only stopping if he saw an actual foul. One does wish for less dramatization overall but you have to remember that if you keep playing the ref can rule that you did not wish to take the free kick. This is allowed since it's sometimes more advantageous. The rule is quite literally called advantage, and you don't want to take it unless it makes sense, although the ref usually makes a judgement call after a couple seconds. Still..

IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago

Argentina were the best team by far 80 min. It just so happened that things went out of the script in the following 3 minutes, and then after we proceeded to watch quite possibly the best extra time played of all time, certainly in a final game. Best final? Possibly. But only because of the unexpected 2-2 which looked impossible in the preceding 80mins. In fact, there was only 1 team that showed up for most of the first 90mins. Had the game not gone into extra time, this would just be another lopsided game with a deserved winner. This was not a trade of blows, Rocky style. That was left for extra time :)

AlbertCory 4y ago
That's kind of silly. A match doesn't have to be trading blows like Rocky for the whole 90 minutes. Stuff happens. If you have a 2-0 lead, you have to protect it for the entire game. I get tired of things being proclaimed "the best ever" though. "It was really good" is plenty, unless you've watched every other one.
- gus_massa 4y ago
  [Hi from Argentina] When it was 2-0, I expected the team to go full defense as usual in other Word Cups. I't boring because you have 10 players defending and only 1 in the other half of the field trying to use an error to make a 3rd goal. It's at the same time very boring and very nerving. I was surprise they continue attacking, and were very close to the 3rd goal.
  - AlbertCory 4y ago
    Well, congratulations, anyway. They made it exciting.
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    It's boring but it's better than losing like Brazil did :)
- IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
  We are talking about the best match ever. For a game to qualify as the "best ever", there MUST be trading blows. And I don't mean like fistfights. I mean like end to end almost-goal action. And comebacks. Which is exactly what happened in extra time. Twice. And plenty of chances gone amiss NO one remembers a game that ended 1-0 with nothing else happening. Its not memorable Even if its a final.

coffeebeqn 4y ago

1994 was my first World Cup and this really felt similar from what I remember. Except the stars put in their penalties