Well, in the case of personal property, I would, yes - it's insured? It'd have to be something pretty important for me to feel like attacking the thief, unless

Well, in the case of personal property, I would, yes - it's insured? It'd have to be something pretty important for me to feel like attacking the thief, unless they were threatening me or my family. I sympathize with retailers getting robbed repeatedly, and obviously that'd make you angry, potentially desperate, (and I expect judges might be more sympathetic if they resorted to violence), but what I'm sensing in this thread is a "kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out" approach to rule-breaking, which I can't get on board with. Self-defense can be proportionate, or not - shooting someone who shoved you is not going to pass that test in most courts.