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Those exist for a reason, care to say why they aren’t necessary before dismissing them outright? Surely you agree some amount of regulation is necessary?

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gamegoblin 4y ago
Any set of nuclear regulations that aren't just a copy of France's nuclear regulations are probably too restrictive. France gets 3/4 of their electricity from nuclear without any major incidents. (Obviously this is overly simplistic, there is a set of natural disasters that France isn't subject to that other countries are, so France is just a starting point. But every addition should be justified by answer the question "What about our circumstances makes us different from France here?")
- Gwypaas 4y ago
  Half of France's nuclear fleet is offline due to maintenance issues. They've gone from an electricity exporter to importer when it is most needed. Have a look at Flamanville 3 and try to sell another 50 of those to the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamanville_Nuclear_Power_Plant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamanville_Nuclear_Power_Plan...
  - gamegoblin 4y ago
    And yet... no major safety events and still generating a significant amount of electricity. Obviously, as you point out, it could be better. But I'll take France, issues and all, over coal plants every day of the week. I expect France will get their act together. Re: net importer, their amount of import is basically a rounding error, on the order of 0.1% of their energy usage. They are energy neutral.
    - Gwypaas 4y ago
      The great thing is that the alternative is not coal plants anymore, it is renewables. https://www.lazard.com/perspective/levelized-cost-of-energy-levelized-cost-of-storage-and-levelized-cost-of-hydrogen/ https://www.lazard.com/perspective/levelized-cost-of-energy-...
      - acidburnNSA 4y ago
        LCOE is unrelated to systems costs of large decarbonized grid because it leaves out the costs of long-term backup, increased transmission, overcapacity needed to fill the night batteries, and more.
wolfram74 4y ago
You've made two arguments here, all are necessary and some are necessary. There's a record of anti-nuclear sentiment being stoked by fossil fuel industry[0] [0]https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2016/07/13/are-fossil-fuel-interests-bankrolling-the-anti-nuclear-energy-movement/?sh=35d5b1a67453 https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2016/07/13/are-f...

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gamegoblin 4y ago

Any set of nuclear regulations that aren't just a copy of France's nuclear regulations are probably too restrictive. France gets 3/4 of their electricity from nuclear without any major incidents. (Obviously this is overly simplistic, there is a set of natural disasters that France isn't subject to that other countries are, so France is just a starting point. But every addition should be justified by answer the question "What about our circumstances makes us different from France here?")

Gwypaas 4y ago
Half of France's nuclear fleet is offline due to maintenance issues. They've gone from an electricity exporter to importer when it is most needed. Have a look at Flamanville 3 and try to sell another 50 of those to the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamanville_Nuclear_Power_Plant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamanville_Nuclear_Power_Plan...
- gamegoblin 4y ago
  And yet... no major safety events and still generating a significant amount of electricity. Obviously, as you point out, it could be better. But I'll take France, issues and all, over coal plants every day of the week. I expect France will get their act together. Re: net importer, their amount of import is basically a rounding error, on the order of 0.1% of their energy usage. They are energy neutral.
  - Gwypaas 4y ago
    The great thing is that the alternative is not coal plants anymore, it is renewables. https://www.lazard.com/perspective/levelized-cost-of-energy-levelized-cost-of-storage-and-levelized-cost-of-hydrogen/ https://www.lazard.com/perspective/levelized-cost-of-energy-...
    - acidburnNSA 4y ago
      LCOE is unrelated to systems costs of large decarbonized grid because it leaves out the costs of long-term backup, increased transmission, overcapacity needed to fill the night batteries, and more.

wolfram74 4y ago

You've made two arguments here, all are necessary and some are necessary. There's a record of anti-nuclear sentiment being stoked by fossil fuel industry[0] [0]https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2016/07/13/are-fossil-fuel-interests-bankrolling-the-anti-nuclear-energy-movement/?sh=35d5b1a67453 https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2016/07/13/are-f...