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Pretty sure Musk was discussing freedom of ideas. That said; many of us also thought Kanye shouldn’t have been banned. Few on hacker news agreed lol You eithe

Pretty sure Musk was discussing freedom of ideas. That said; many of us also thought Kanye shouldn’t have been banned. Few on hacker news agreed lol You either have absolute freedom of speech or none, in many ways. That said, I appreciate that at least people are being told why they are banned. The prior set of billionaires who owned Twitter often wouldn’t say why. Blocking links to competitors, blocking real-time tracking of people, and a guy telling the world how great hitler is are fairly mundane / reasonable things to block imo.

lapcat 4y ago
> at least people are being told why they are banned This is not even true. "i did not delete anything. i received no notification about which tweet got me suspended. i still have no idea" https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1604227164416925696 https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1604227164416925696
- lettergram 4y ago
  Fair enough, perhaps it just seemed that way? Idk Also, interesting to see you on HN (didn’t realize you were in the tech space). I saw you on Tim Pools show, recognized the name
  - lapcat 4y ago
    > Also, interesting to see you on HN (didn’t realize you were in the tech space). I saw you on Tim Pools show, recognized the name I am not Matt Binder. I just linked to his tweet.
    - lettergram 4y ago
      Lol fair, then I’ll bring up how he was disingenuous on the Tim pool show (my impression anyway). Where he also advocated for abortion “after birth” and clearly was not being honest (or maybe he was idk lol). There were also several items of discussion where it appeared there were outward attempts to deceive. I don’t view that dude as overly credible. I personally have seen most people receiving a clear explanation. Previously, I’d had accounts banned without ANY explanation. I’m still suppressed in comment responses for some reason (on a different account)
mcv 4y ago
> You either have absolute freedom of speech or none, in many ways. I don't think there is such a thing as absolute freedom of speech. Speech always has some limitations, and that's never been controversial. Threats, blackmail, libel, discussing plans to commit a crime, those have always been illegal in some way. But at the same time, Twitter/Musk banning people is also protected by the First Amendment. He is not the government, and the government can't compel him to allow or ban people on his platform. Well, unless his platform is considered a utility or a monopoly. Then it becomes a different issue. And especially banning competitors could be anticompetitive behaviour.

lapcat 4y ago

> at least people are being told why they are banned This is not even true. "i did not delete anything. i received no notification about which tweet got me suspended. i still have no idea" https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1604227164416925696 https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1604227164416925696

lettergram 4y ago
Fair enough, perhaps it just seemed that way? Idk Also, interesting to see you on HN (didn’t realize you were in the tech space). I saw you on Tim Pools show, recognized the name
- lapcat 4y ago
  > Also, interesting to see you on HN (didn’t realize you were in the tech space). I saw you on Tim Pools show, recognized the name I am not Matt Binder. I just linked to his tweet.
  - lettergram 4y ago
    Lol fair, then I’ll bring up how he was disingenuous on the Tim pool show (my impression anyway). Where he also advocated for abortion “after birth” and clearly was not being honest (or maybe he was idk lol). There were also several items of discussion where it appeared there were outward attempts to deceive. I don’t view that dude as overly credible. I personally have seen most people receiving a clear explanation. Previously, I’d had accounts banned without ANY explanation. I’m still suppressed in comment responses for some reason (on a different account)

mcv 4y ago

> You either have absolute freedom of speech or none, in many ways. I don't think there is such a thing as absolute freedom of speech. Speech always has some limitations, and that's never been controversial. Threats, blackmail, libel, discussing plans to commit a crime, those have always been illegal in some way. But at the same time, Twitter/Musk banning people is also protected by the First Amendment. He is not the government, and the government can't compel him to allow or ban people on his platform. Well, unless his platform is considered a utility or a monopoly. Then it becomes a different issue. And especially banning competitors could be anticompetitive behaviour.