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Musk is lying. This is what an aircraft in the PIA programme looks like. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a0fe01 https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a0fe0

by _djo_ 4y ago

Musk is lying. This is what an aircraft in the PIA programme looks like. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a0fe01 https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a0fe01 Note the 'PIA' flag and lack of additional information that would normally be pulled from the registry. In fact if you searched the registry for A0FE01 you would not find the actual aircraft but a placeholder. Musk uses three jets, N628TS, N272BG, and N502SX. None are in the PIA programme, all are easily visible on ADSB Exchange and most importantly have their ICAO hex codes listed publicly on the FAA registry, along with ownership information. So please, let's stop repeating this false claim. N628TS: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResult?NNumberTxt=628TS https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul... N272BG: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a2ae0a https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a2ae0a https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResult?NNumberTxt=272BG https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul... N502SX: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a64304 https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a64304 https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResult?NNumberTxt=502SX https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...

leereeves 4y ago
As was pointed out in responses to your independent post about this[1], aircraft enrolled in PIA still have public permanent codes, which they must use when outside the US, as Musk is now (at the World Cup in Qatar). Linking to the adsbexchange page for that permanent code doesn't prove that no anonymous temporary PIA codes exist. You should be more careful before accusing someone of lying. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34037780 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34037780
- _djo_ 4y ago
  You're right about international flights and I should have specified that, but you can view the aircraft's recent US-only flights and see that it also used its permanent ICAO code.
  - leereeves 4y ago
    There are also gaps in the history ("no data available") of the permanent code, like: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af&lat=34.765&lon=-98.635&zoom=3.0&showTrace=2022-12-12 https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af&lat=34.765&lon=-... Couldn't they have used the PIA code on those days?

by _djo_ 4y ago

leereeves 4y ago

As was pointed out in responses to your independent post about this[1], aircraft enrolled in PIA still have public permanent codes, which they must use when outside the US, as Musk is now (at the World Cup in Qatar). Linking to the adsbexchange page for that permanent code doesn't prove that no anonymous temporary PIA codes exist. You should be more careful before accusing someone of lying. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34037780 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34037780

_djo_ 4y ago
You're right about international flights and I should have specified that, but you can view the aircraft's recent US-only flights and see that it also used its permanent ICAO code.
- leereeves 4y ago
  There are also gaps in the history ("no data available") of the permanent code, like: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af&lat=34.765&lon=-98.635&zoom=3.0&showTrace=2022-12-12 https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af&lat=34.765&lon=-... Couldn't they have used the PIA code on those days?