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“This Tweet Is Unavailable” – Musk Escalates Shadowbanning

25 points by paulnpace 4y ago

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
Excuse me! I think you mean "visibility filtering".
hereme888 4y ago
Musk made clear they would still shadowban, but the difference is that people would be able to contact Twitter, they would know why, the views to the tweets may simply be limited, etc. The ongoing campaign in the far leftists media lately against the new, more neutral twitter is quite obvious.
programmer_dude 4y ago
The emperor has no clothes.
vageli 4y ago
This shadowbanning must be targeted—I am able to see all of the tweets listed by the author.
- jakelazaroff 4y ago
  Occam’s Razor: this is just a bug, not shadow banning.
nirvgorilla 4y ago
- Pidaymou 4y ago
  Why being so rude brother? If you don't like it don't click it or say it gently atleast.
  - nirvgorilla 4y ago
    After being online since 1995, I'm sick of every goddamned website on the internet getting in my face and bothering me about shit. I want STATIC websites that don't dynamically fucking change - especially if you're connecting from a different location or device. I want STATIC and SAME god damnit.
- Waterluvian 4y ago
  Hi! There’s a win win here where you can have what you want without forcing it upon the rest of the audience: https://github.com/ShamariFeaster/chrome-extension-hn-filter https://github.com/ShamariFeaster/chrome-extension-hn-filter One of the beauties of HN’s simple and unchanged design is that selectors to find and hide stories likely don’t change over the years. I bet this plug-in either works or is minutes away from working again.
- c22 4y ago
  Seems to work just fine without JavaScript (despite a red banner claiming otherwise). Don't configure your stupid user agent to run code you don't want to run?
- lost_tourist 4y ago
  just click "next" to continue reading
retskrad 4y ago
I have noticed that those who lean extremely right respond feverishly to personalities like Trump and Elon. Does anyone have a theory as why this is the case?
- alexpetralia 4y ago
  Authority creates order, freedom creates chaos. But order can be tyrannical or benevolent, and because it can be tyrannical, some people trust freedom more. Essentially if you are on the winning end of authority's benevolence, you want a greater concentration of power; the losing end and you want more freedom.
- mgamache 4y ago
  The left just picks different deities. Fauci / Thunberg / AOC etc...
- sph 4y ago
  Idiots are fan of people that claim to have simple answers to complex problems. Mind you: I'm talking about far-right (and perhaps far-left as well). The smarter you are, the more aware you are that people saying they have all the answers are hucksters. Extremist politics, nationalism and blind faith thrive on ignorance.
  - throwntoday 4y ago
    Well you don't come off as self-involved at all. How can you seriously claim Elon is a huckster with all the achievements under his belt? Besides trying to attribute that success to other people and luck.
    - majewsky 4y ago
      I'm not a native speaker, so I had to look up the definition of "huckster". They all have a quite negative connotation, but "somebody who sells things in an aggressive or showy manner" does seem to fit Elon quite well.
- 4y ago
femiagbabiaka 4y ago
I’ve actually seen the same thing “This tweet is unavailable” when attempting to view musk’s tweets in general (admittedly I do not have a Twitter account and don’t know how the guest view may differ from an active login). Refreshing many times usually resolves it. Based on that I wonder if what you’re seeing is intermittent infrastructure failure and not shadowbanning, or maybe even both at different times.
mgamache 4y ago
It's also likely Twitter is just broken. They did fire a lot of staff. Also, in any broad move you are going to keep people you should have fired and fired people you should have kept (even if the overall numbers are justified)
jsnell 4y ago
I don't think this is shadowbanning. It's just that the feature of viewing individual tweets via a direct link has been very flaky for a month, and getting worse over time. Tweets will just randomly show up as "unavailable". (And I think it's unreliability in their systems rather than a policy, since I have also seen it happen e.g. for tweets by Musk.)
- jen20 4y ago
  It’s been bad for years, especially in in-app web browsers like discord. The success rate for me was in the 10-20% success range unless I opened the link in a logged-in, non-in-app browser. I deleted my twitter account at the first rumour of Musk, so I don’t know if it’s getting worse, but I find that hard to believe based on how bad it was before.
lost_tourist 4y ago
When I search for his "@..." nothing comes up; however, I can just use manually typed in URI to get to his account. I guess that's the very definition of shadow banning.
jacknews 4y ago
As far as I'm concerned twitter has always been unusable, but honestly, I'm not sure I'd want to use it anyway when it's this tense.

25 points by paulnpace 4y ago

Excuse me! I think you mean "visibility filtering".

Musk made clear they would still shadowban, but the difference is that people would be able to contact Twitter, they would know why, the views to the tweets may simply be limited, etc. The ongoing campaign in the far leftists media lately against the new, more neutral twitter is quite obvious.

programmer_dude 4y ago

The emperor has no clothes.

vageli 4y ago

This shadowbanning must be targeted—I am able to see all of the tweets listed by the author.

jakelazaroff 4y ago
Occam’s Razor: this is just a bug, not shadow banning.

nirvgorilla 4y ago

Pidaymou 4y ago
Why being so rude brother? If you don't like it don't click it or say it gently atleast.
- nirvgorilla 4y ago
  After being online since 1995, I'm sick of every goddamned website on the internet getting in my face and bothering me about shit. I want STATIC websites that don't dynamically fucking change - especially if you're connecting from a different location or device. I want STATIC and SAME god damnit.
Waterluvian 4y ago
Hi! There’s a win win here where you can have what you want without forcing it upon the rest of the audience: https://github.com/ShamariFeaster/chrome-extension-hn-filter https://github.com/ShamariFeaster/chrome-extension-hn-filter One of the beauties of HN’s simple and unchanged design is that selectors to find and hide stories likely don’t change over the years. I bet this plug-in either works or is minutes away from working again.
c22 4y ago
Seems to work just fine without JavaScript (despite a red banner claiming otherwise). Don't configure your stupid user agent to run code you don't want to run?
lost_tourist 4y ago
just click "next" to continue reading

retskrad 4y ago

I have noticed that those who lean extremely right respond feverishly to personalities like Trump and Elon. Does anyone have a theory as why this is the case?

alexpetralia 4y ago
Authority creates order, freedom creates chaos. But order can be tyrannical or benevolent, and because it can be tyrannical, some people trust freedom more. Essentially if you are on the winning end of authority's benevolence, you want a greater concentration of power; the losing end and you want more freedom.
mgamache 4y ago
The left just picks different deities. Fauci / Thunberg / AOC etc...
sph 4y ago
Idiots are fan of people that claim to have simple answers to complex problems. Mind you: I'm talking about far-right (and perhaps far-left as well). The smarter you are, the more aware you are that people saying they have all the answers are hucksters. Extremist politics, nationalism and blind faith thrive on ignorance.
- throwntoday 4y ago
  Well you don't come off as self-involved at all. How can you seriously claim Elon is a huckster with all the achievements under his belt? Besides trying to attribute that success to other people and luck.
  - majewsky 4y ago
    I'm not a native speaker, so I had to look up the definition of "huckster". They all have a quite negative connotation, but "somebody who sells things in an aggressive or showy manner" does seem to fit Elon quite well.
4y ago

femiagbabiaka 4y ago

I’ve actually seen the same thing “This tweet is unavailable” when attempting to view musk’s tweets in general (admittedly I do not have a Twitter account and don’t know how the guest view may differ from an active login). Refreshing many times usually resolves it. Based on that I wonder if what you’re seeing is intermittent infrastructure failure and not shadowbanning, or maybe even both at different times.

mgamache 4y ago

It's also likely Twitter is just broken. They did fire a lot of staff. Also, in any broad move you are going to keep people you should have fired and fired people you should have kept (even if the overall numbers are justified)

jsnell 4y ago

I don't think this is shadowbanning. It's just that the feature of viewing individual tweets via a direct link has been very flaky for a month, and getting worse over time. Tweets will just randomly show up as "unavailable". (And I think it's unreliability in their systems rather than a policy, since I have also seen it happen e.g. for tweets by Musk.)

jen20 4y ago
It’s been bad for years, especially in in-app web browsers like discord. The success rate for me was in the 10-20% success range unless I opened the link in a logged-in, non-in-app browser. I deleted my twitter account at the first rumour of Musk, so I don’t know if it’s getting worse, but I find that hard to believe based on how bad it was before.

lost_tourist 4y ago

When I search for his "@..." nothing comes up; however, I can just use manually typed in URI to get to his account. I guess that's the very definition of shadow banning.

jacknews 4y ago

As far as I'm concerned twitter has always been unusable, but honestly, I'm not sure I'd want to use it anyway when it's this tense.