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Ask HN: What are your predictions for 2023?

33 points by t0bia_s 4y ago

What are you expect in 2023? From personal and global view.

sethd 4y ago
Musk will be arrested on various fraud charges. Musk supporters will convince themselves that he is a victim of political persecution. We won’t hear the end of it. Will his scheme to avoid legal consequences work?
- blitz_skull 4y ago
  Mostly OOTL, all I know about was Twitter which seemed above the board. What would he be arrested for?
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nairboon 4y ago
What was that first meme/AI religion comment about? It was just deleted a minute ago.
tareqak 4y ago
Stable Diffusion but for video: everyone becomes a TikTok content creator.
- t0bia_s 4y ago
  No, if TikTok would be banned.
CM30 4y ago
The war in Ukraine ends. Not sure who 'wins', but it feels like resources are low enough on the Russian side that an end to the conflict will be a priority. Putin might not make it through 2023. If he keeps pushing for the war and the rest of the elites/political sphere in Russia want it to end, I can see him being taken out by them. Twitter crashes and burns. Musk is already doing everything in his power to achieve that, and it feels like the site/company is on thin ice right now, in pretty much every sense. The Mario movie comes out, does well. Nintendo announces the Donkey Kong movie that's suppposedly in production, plus a few other adaptations. The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom comes out, does well. Some people feel it doesn't do enough that's new, but the general design is good enough to get high review scores nonetheless. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe gets character DLC At least one long running show finally ends. Maybe this is the time The Simpsons finally comes to a close? Or could it be Family Guy, South Park, Spongebob, etc? Eh, if the Pokemon anime can be rebooted without Ash, this seems viable too. Crypto continues to struggle, as people realise there aren't many use cases for things like Bitcoin outside of questionable activity and countries with broken economic systems. The cracks show for Meta... Horizon Worlds isn't catching on, and Facebook is dying. Eventually it'll hurt the company financially too. Discord tries to monetise its services more, users get annoyed. Either the UK PM steps down, or another election is called. The cat leaves the bag, and AI tech becomes usable outside of hosted services. All kinds of ethical questions get raised.
krapp 4y ago
Posts complaining about how decentralized and federated networks have become ruined now that the normies have discovered them will become commonplace, and techies will create ever more obscure custom protocols like Gemini to hide out in. Related, a centralized ActivityPub-as-a-service app will surpass Mastodon in adoption. We'll see the first fully AI generated movie, album or game. It won't be great, but it will be better than you'd expect, and it will make money.
weatherlite 4y ago
A.I gets talked about almost weekly in the context of job losses. Websites like HN and Reddit will be filled with GPT4 stories.
- baandang 4y ago
  GPT4 stories might be a huge feature. Usually when I read a story about something I know quite well the reporter gets things wrong or at the least you can tell they are a journalist and don't really know the subject well. AI just has a very low bar to cross to put most journalist out of business.
- t0bia_s 4y ago
  Isn't Reddit already filled with generated stories? Bots on HN are not allowed.
  - weatherlite 4y ago
    I meant HN and Reddit will be filled with stories about GPT4, not by GPT4. Its us that are gonna talk about it a lot. If GPT4 will continue the same kind of progress then unfortunately for us I anticipate angst/anxiety levels to hit the roof. Many people won't know what to do with their careers/studies. It will also get talked about in traditional media much more, it won't be mainly geeks that know what GPT is. People from the mainstream like Joe Rogan will start talking about it, maybe even (finally) politicians.
    - t0bia_s 4y ago
      I guess it will bother only tech savy minority like digital privacy does.
tamaharbor 4y ago
HN contributors will submit several items regarding Elon Musk.
- frgoe 4y ago
  Wild guess!
t0bia_s 4y ago
Because of economic instability, gonverment will limits cash and create more and more "advatages" in digital payments and ID. Other regulations in name of limiting CO2 expected as well.
yawnxyz 4y ago
Most of the hyper growth companies are going to fail spectacularly… from Bird to Carvana to most SPACs to even some of the more “real” startups like Uber. But of course we’re seeing that already so it’s not much of a prediction. Maybe… Half Life 3 will be released?
report-to-trees 4y ago
Models like ChatGPT and Stable diffusion will go the way of self-driving tech as everyone realizes they are not good enough to replace any actual human work.
- sapporo_197 4y ago
  Black hat uses of LLMs are what scare me. I would get more specific, but there are people here who would actually do some of these things, so I won’t.
- baandang 4y ago
  You clearly don't like art then. Stable Diffusion is the greatest artist ever and it isn't even close. We are at the art singularity. I made a logo for the first time with it the other day and not only was it better than anything a human would come up with but I had 10 different super human logos in a few seconds. I started going to art galleries 30 years ago but I have seen more great art on my screen in the last few months than in my entire life. Most of the stuff you see people post is shit. Darth Vader playing video games. Anyone with even the slightest bit of art knowledge can make things beyond their wildest dreams. Of course you can't make new digital realistic Roberto Matta paintings if you have no idea who Matta is to start with to put them in as part of the prompt.
  - t0bia_s 4y ago
    Please, share your logo. As professional artist, I'm curious.
- akmittal 4y ago
  Self driving can't be compared to generative AI/ChatGPT. Self drivings single mistake can be fatal but if ChatGPT is accurate for 99% of cased that would be good enough.
  - report-to-trees 4y ago
    Good enough for who? Random internet comments and memes, sure. I have serious doubts any business will be ok paying for a tool that outputs nonsense (or worse) 1% of the time when they are already paying people who do it well. As depressing as it is, most business is treated as seriously as life-or-death.
aaron695 4y ago
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akmittal 4y ago
2023 being the year startups have to show profits so i see lots of big companies going bankrupt Lots of investment moving to AI based companies New wave of companie focusing on AI hardware too
HellDunkel 4y ago
VR Hype will continue to fade away. Zelda Tears of the Kingdom will be amazing. Avatar 2 will not make as big a splash as expected.
- rvz 4y ago
  > Zelda Tears of the Kingdom will be amazing. 'Amazing' enough for it to win Game of the Year (GOTY) for 2023. As correctly predicted for Elden Ring for 2022 unsurprisingly [0], despite that being overhyped by its fans. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30843062 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30843062
  - HellDunkel 4y ago
    Agree on Elden Ring beeing overhyped but why say such a mean thing about TOTW?
valdiorn 4y ago
Continued collapse of the top-end rech jobs. More layoffs at FAANG type companies as people realise the hoarding of talent and million dollar bonuses are just a waste of company resources. This will have a drastic effect on the tech jobmarket, globally, for years to come, as "second tier" companies become competitive with the top players in terms of comp. and people start shedding the golden handcuffs.
PedroBatista 4y ago
World economy will collapse triggered by nuclear war. This will lay the path for 2023 finally be the year of Desktop Linux. The mass extinctions will also help Lisp developers becoming the dominant species for the next millennia.
- serf 4y ago
  >The mass extinctions will also help Lisp developers becoming the dominant species for the next millennia. 'lisp isn't a language, it's a building material.' -- finally an apocalypse scenario that I can get behind.
Jemm 4y ago
A return to sanity maybe, but more likely not.
archerx 4y ago
Some kind of global food crisis.
__coder__ 4y ago
Bad days will continue for FAANG. Russia-Ukraine war will end. Inflation will remain high.
- TobTobXX 4y ago
  > Russia-Ukraine war will end. The interesting part will be how and on what terms...
  - t312227 4y ago
    here we go: russia wins. either in H2 militarily or in H1 by an (unconditional) settlement with "the west" - read the USA - in which case russia more or less will be able to dictate the terms of the agreement. just my 0.02€
NickRandom 4y ago
My prediction: The Rich will continue to get richer and corporate profits will continue to skyrocket while the poor continue to get screwed over because the global economy is in recession while in fact the global elite continue to profit at the expense of the common man. Ok, not much insight there (aka ‘same as it ever was’) but I am always fascinated about how easily human behaviour can be moulded, moderated and distracted simply by reducing the amount of crumbs left on the table to create infighting and disharmony instead of focusing attention on where the money is going and to who. I mean, I get it - When the choice is between paying the bills and keeping a roof over your head or fighting for social justice and equality then the choice (on an individual level) is an easy one but I'm always disappointed that the populace are so easily distracted and divided by the creation of artificial scarcity and that they/we/us continue to fall for it every single time.
- c22 4y ago
  I don't know. When I was younger and worked menial jobs and lived in crappy places it was pretty easy for me to surf through two recessions by just adapting to where I was (true, I did live in a car for two months in 2008). Now I have more wealth, but also more bills. If my wife loses her job or I lose too many clients we will have a problem. I'm still better off than those guys in suits flinging themselves from the top of an office building.
  - NickRandom 4y ago
    And of the twice (now thrice) that it happened to yourself? Who profited? Was it yourself? To quote your reply "If my wife loses her job or I lose too many clients we will have a problem." Ask yourself this - Cui bono? ("to whom is it a benefit?") (I presume the 'guys flinging themselves from buildings’ refers to the Black Friday 1869 Stock Market crash?) [From Wikipedia] The crash was a consequence of an attempt by financier Jay Gould and railway magnate James Fisk to corner the gold market and drive up the price. Perhaps it was a reference to the 1929 Wall Street Crash? If so perhaps a quote would help - "How can a very serious Stock Exchange collapse produce a serious setback to industry when industrial production is for the most part in a healthy and balanced condition?" Consider both points and wonder whether or not the people like yourself are being played as pawns. [Edit to update]: When I refer to the global elite I don't mean any particular race or religion because at the end of the day the only true global religion at this point in human history is who has the biggest bank balance. Consider this - Elon Musk's top position has now been displaced by the CEO of LVMH (Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton). In every single recession the profits from luxury goods has increased. Ask yourself why.
pattt 4y ago
GPT3, Stable Diffusion etc. will really kick off. People will start accepting these blackbox Big Data sequence prediction models as a new norm, a powerful assistance for all sorts of domains. There will be some resistance but the argument that one doesn’t need to understand digestion in order to eat food and survive will eventually settle and the path of these models becoming a natural extension of our minds will be laid out. We will see different interfaces (speech recognition, OCR) and pipelines being created to fit these models into real problem solving pipelines and address their inaccuracies, i.e., with additional fact/spec checking and computation logic. some successful startups and products will emerge mostly from folks who already started their ventures into this space.
rvz 4y ago
Well I guess that this year's tech crash and layoffs that the 'four horse men' told me about finally happened. [0] Perhaps there is more to come; but either way, no-one is safe. Along side the other predictions at the start of the decade I made [1][2] with the majority of the predictions being accurate so far, I am still predicting that startups that don't turn a profit will be struggling to raise further capital by VCs as it will get harder to seek more capital for them to stay afloat in 2023. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20993919 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20993919 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926473 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926473 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22663119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22663119
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dazc 4y ago
People will continue to get angry about things that don't personally affect them.
jamil7 4y ago
2022 thread for comparison: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29746236 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29746236
samsquire 4y ago
Everyone has an outbreak of positivity, goodness and love. People become grateful for all the good and what is right in the world.
sapporo_197 4y ago
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- MacsHeadroom 4y ago
  #4, excuse me-- what? Why?
  - sapporo_197 4y ago
- tptacek 4y ago
  All of these predictions are trenchant and exciting, but #2, I can't imagine happening. It's just too much to hope for. You might as well predict that The Author Himself will make a triumphant return to HN. Which, as we both know, would never happen: he's foresworn it forevermore.
  - sapporo_197 4y ago

33 points by t0bia_s 4y ago

What are you expect in 2023? From personal and global view.

Musk will be arrested on various fraud charges. Musk supporters will convince themselves that he is a victim of political persecution. We won’t hear the end of it. Will his scheme to avoid legal consequences work?

blitz_skull 4y ago
Mostly OOTL, all I know about was Twitter which seemed above the board. What would he be arrested for?

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nairboon 4y ago

What was that first meme/AI religion comment about? It was just deleted a minute ago.

tareqak 4y ago

Stable Diffusion but for video: everyone becomes a TikTok content creator.

t0bia_s 4y ago
No, if TikTok would be banned.

CM30 4y ago

The war in Ukraine ends. Not sure who 'wins', but it feels like resources are low enough on the Russian side that an end to the conflict will be a priority. Putin might not make it through 2023. If he keeps pushing for the war and the rest of the elites/political sphere in Russia want it to end, I can see him being taken out by them. Twitter crashes and burns. Musk is already doing everything in his power to achieve that, and it feels like the site/company is on thin ice right now, in pretty much every sense. The Mario movie comes out, does well. Nintendo announces the Donkey Kong movie that's suppposedly in production, plus a few other adaptations. The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom comes out, does well. Some people feel it doesn't do enough that's new, but the general design is good enough to get high review scores nonetheless. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe gets character DLC At least one long running show finally ends. Maybe this is the time The Simpsons finally comes to a close? Or could it be Family Guy, South Park, Spongebob, etc? Eh, if the Pokemon anime can be rebooted without Ash, this seems viable too. Crypto continues to struggle, as people realise there aren't many use cases for things like Bitcoin outside of questionable activity and countries with broken economic systems. The cracks show for Meta... Horizon Worlds isn't catching on, and Facebook is dying. Eventually it'll hurt the company financially too. Discord tries to monetise its services more, users get annoyed. Either the UK PM steps down, or another election is called. The cat leaves the bag, and AI tech becomes usable outside of hosted services. All kinds of ethical questions get raised.

krapp 4y ago

Posts complaining about how decentralized and federated networks have become ruined now that the normies have discovered them will become commonplace, and techies will create ever more obscure custom protocols like Gemini to hide out in. Related, a centralized ActivityPub-as-a-service app will surpass Mastodon in adoption. We'll see the first fully AI generated movie, album or game. It won't be great, but it will be better than you'd expect, and it will make money.

weatherlite 4y ago

A.I gets talked about almost weekly in the context of job losses. Websites like HN and Reddit will be filled with GPT4 stories.

baandang 4y ago
GPT4 stories might be a huge feature. Usually when I read a story about something I know quite well the reporter gets things wrong or at the least you can tell they are a journalist and don't really know the subject well. AI just has a very low bar to cross to put most journalist out of business.
t0bia_s 4y ago
Isn't Reddit already filled with generated stories? Bots on HN are not allowed.
- weatherlite 4y ago
  I meant HN and Reddit will be filled with stories about GPT4, not by GPT4. Its us that are gonna talk about it a lot. If GPT4 will continue the same kind of progress then unfortunately for us I anticipate angst/anxiety levels to hit the roof. Many people won't know what to do with their careers/studies. It will also get talked about in traditional media much more, it won't be mainly geeks that know what GPT is. People from the mainstream like Joe Rogan will start talking about it, maybe even (finally) politicians.
  - t0bia_s 4y ago
    I guess it will bother only tech savy minority like digital privacy does.

tamaharbor 4y ago

HN contributors will submit several items regarding Elon Musk.

frgoe 4y ago
Wild guess!

t0bia_s 4y ago

Because of economic instability, gonverment will limits cash and create more and more "advatages" in digital payments and ID. Other regulations in name of limiting CO2 expected as well.

yawnxyz 4y ago

Most of the hyper growth companies are going to fail spectacularly… from Bird to Carvana to most SPACs to even some of the more “real” startups like Uber. But of course we’re seeing that already so it’s not much of a prediction. Maybe… Half Life 3 will be released?

report-to-trees 4y ago

Models like ChatGPT and Stable diffusion will go the way of self-driving tech as everyone realizes they are not good enough to replace any actual human work.

sapporo_197 4y ago
Black hat uses of LLMs are what scare me. I would get more specific, but there are people here who would actually do some of these things, so I won’t.
baandang 4y ago
You clearly don't like art then. Stable Diffusion is the greatest artist ever and it isn't even close. We are at the art singularity. I made a logo for the first time with it the other day and not only was it better than anything a human would come up with but I had 10 different super human logos in a few seconds. I started going to art galleries 30 years ago but I have seen more great art on my screen in the last few months than in my entire life. Most of the stuff you see people post is shit. Darth Vader playing video games. Anyone with even the slightest bit of art knowledge can make things beyond their wildest dreams. Of course you can't make new digital realistic Roberto Matta paintings if you have no idea who Matta is to start with to put them in as part of the prompt.
- t0bia_s 4y ago
  Please, share your logo. As professional artist, I'm curious.
akmittal 4y ago
Self driving can't be compared to generative AI/ChatGPT. Self drivings single mistake can be fatal but if ChatGPT is accurate for 99% of cased that would be good enough.
- report-to-trees 4y ago
  Good enough for who? Random internet comments and memes, sure. I have serious doubts any business will be ok paying for a tool that outputs nonsense (or worse) 1% of the time when they are already paying people who do it well. As depressing as it is, most business is treated as seriously as life-or-death.

aaron695 4y ago

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akmittal 4y ago

2023 being the year startups have to show profits so i see lots of big companies going bankrupt Lots of investment moving to AI based companies New wave of companie focusing on AI hardware too

HellDunkel 4y ago

VR Hype will continue to fade away. Zelda Tears of the Kingdom will be amazing. Avatar 2 will not make as big a splash as expected.

rvz 4y ago
> Zelda Tears of the Kingdom will be amazing. 'Amazing' enough for it to win Game of the Year (GOTY) for 2023. As correctly predicted for Elden Ring for 2022 unsurprisingly [0], despite that being overhyped by its fans. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30843062 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30843062
- HellDunkel 4y ago
  Agree on Elden Ring beeing overhyped but why say such a mean thing about TOTW?

valdiorn 4y ago

Continued collapse of the top-end rech jobs. More layoffs at FAANG type companies as people realise the hoarding of talent and million dollar bonuses are just a waste of company resources. This will have a drastic effect on the tech jobmarket, globally, for years to come, as "second tier" companies become competitive with the top players in terms of comp. and people start shedding the golden handcuffs.

PedroBatista 4y ago

World economy will collapse triggered by nuclear war. This will lay the path for 2023 finally be the year of Desktop Linux. The mass extinctions will also help Lisp developers becoming the dominant species for the next millennia.

serf 4y ago
>The mass extinctions will also help Lisp developers becoming the dominant species for the next millennia. 'lisp isn't a language, it's a building material.' -- finally an apocalypse scenario that I can get behind.

Jemm 4y ago

A return to sanity maybe, but more likely not.

archerx 4y ago

Some kind of global food crisis.

__coder__ 4y ago

Bad days will continue for FAANG. Russia-Ukraine war will end. Inflation will remain high.

TobTobXX 4y ago
> Russia-Ukraine war will end. The interesting part will be how and on what terms...
- t312227 4y ago
  here we go: russia wins. either in H2 militarily or in H1 by an (unconditional) settlement with "the west" - read the USA - in which case russia more or less will be able to dictate the terms of the agreement. just my 0.02€

NickRandom 4y ago

My prediction: The Rich will continue to get richer and corporate profits will continue to skyrocket while the poor continue to get screwed over because the global economy is in recession while in fact the global elite continue to profit at the expense of the common man. Ok, not much insight there (aka ‘same as it ever was’) but I am always fascinated about how easily human behaviour can be moulded, moderated and distracted simply by reducing the amount of crumbs left on the table to create infighting and disharmony instead of focusing attention on where the money is going and to who. I mean, I get it - When the choice is between paying the bills and keeping a roof over your head or fighting for social justice and equality then the choice (on an individual level) is an easy one but I'm always disappointed that the populace are so easily distracted and divided by the creation of artificial scarcity and that they/we/us continue to fall for it every single time.

c22 4y ago
I don't know. When I was younger and worked menial jobs and lived in crappy places it was pretty easy for me to surf through two recessions by just adapting to where I was (true, I did live in a car for two months in 2008). Now I have more wealth, but also more bills. If my wife loses her job or I lose too many clients we will have a problem. I'm still better off than those guys in suits flinging themselves from the top of an office building.
- NickRandom 4y ago
  And of the twice (now thrice) that it happened to yourself? Who profited? Was it yourself? To quote your reply "If my wife loses her job or I lose too many clients we will have a problem." Ask yourself this - Cui bono? ("to whom is it a benefit?") (I presume the 'guys flinging themselves from buildings’ refers to the Black Friday 1869 Stock Market crash?) [From Wikipedia] The crash was a consequence of an attempt by financier Jay Gould and railway magnate James Fisk to corner the gold market and drive up the price. Perhaps it was a reference to the 1929 Wall Street Crash? If so perhaps a quote would help - "How can a very serious Stock Exchange collapse produce a serious setback to industry when industrial production is for the most part in a healthy and balanced condition?" Consider both points and wonder whether or not the people like yourself are being played as pawns. [Edit to update]: When I refer to the global elite I don't mean any particular race or religion because at the end of the day the only true global religion at this point in human history is who has the biggest bank balance. Consider this - Elon Musk's top position has now been displaced by the CEO of LVMH (Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton). In every single recession the profits from luxury goods has increased. Ask yourself why.

pattt 4y ago

GPT3, Stable Diffusion etc. will really kick off. People will start accepting these blackbox Big Data sequence prediction models as a new norm, a powerful assistance for all sorts of domains. There will be some resistance but the argument that one doesn’t need to understand digestion in order to eat food and survive will eventually settle and the path of these models becoming a natural extension of our minds will be laid out. We will see different interfaces (speech recognition, OCR) and pipelines being created to fit these models into real problem solving pipelines and address their inaccuracies, i.e., with additional fact/spec checking and computation logic. some successful startups and products will emerge mostly from folks who already started their ventures into this space.

rvz 4y ago

Well I guess that this year's tech crash and layoffs that the 'four horse men' told me about finally happened. [0] Perhaps there is more to come; but either way, no-one is safe. Along side the other predictions at the start of the decade I made [1][2] with the majority of the predictions being accurate so far, I am still predicting that startups that don't turn a profit will be struggling to raise further capital by VCs as it will get harder to seek more capital for them to stay afloat in 2023. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20993919 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20993919 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926473 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926473 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22663119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22663119

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dazc 4y ago

People will continue to get angry about things that don't personally affect them.

jamil7 4y ago

2022 thread for comparison: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29746236 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29746236

samsquire 4y ago

Everyone has an outbreak of positivity, goodness and love. People become grateful for all the good and what is right in the world.

sapporo_197 4y ago

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MacsHeadroom 4y ago
#4, excuse me-- what? Why?
- sapporo_197 4y ago
tptacek 4y ago
All of these predictions are trenchant and exciting, but #2, I can't imagine happening. It's just too much to hope for. You might as well predict that The Author Himself will make a triumphant return to HN. Which, as we both know, would never happen: he's foresworn it forevermore.
- sapporo_197 4y ago