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I suggest you do a little reading. I'm Canadian and it's alarming. It's already apparently 2.5% of deaths in Canada. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/ser

I suggest you do a little reading. I'm Canadian and it's alarming. It's already apparently 2.5% of deaths in Canada. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/medical-assistance-dying/annual-report-2020.html#3_2 https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/medical-assi... We have credible reports of a person aged 23 who was approved for medically assisted death because they were diabetic and depressed. https://www.thefp.com/p/scheduled-to-die-the-rise-of-canadas https://www.thefp.com/p/scheduled-to-die-the-rise-of-canadas The top 1% of patients use approximately 30% of the total cost of health care. https://bmchealthservres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12913-014-0532-2 https://bmchealthservres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/... The Canadian health care system is extremely strained. We are already in an age of hallway medicine as there aren't enough staff to treat the people in rooms. https://www.cma.ca/news/canadas-health-care-crisis-what-we-need-now https://www.cma.ca/news/canadas-health-care-crisis-what-we-n...

mmastrac 4y ago
The breakdown of MAID by main condition is interesting, and suggests that the vast majority (~70%) are cancer patients avoiding a painful, prolonged and terrible death. This would also suggest that once we get even better at cancer treatments, the rate of people dying to MAID will drop dramatically. Later in the stats, ~80% of people have lost the ability to engage in activities of daily life (which IMO is a terrible place to be). I don't think your reference supports your claim at all. In fact, it suggests that it's doing exactly what it is meant to do: ending unnecessary suffering for those who are dying of diseases we don't yet have a cure to.
- willhslade 4y ago
  There have also been many reports of people, mostly disabled, who are unable to work or afford rent in Ontario, who have applied to medically assisted death rather than face homelessness. This might be both brinksmanship and gamesmanship, but it's extremely distasteful that we are here as a society.
  - mmastrac 4y ago
    Your claim requires some specific evidence (reports meaning one, two, ten?), and that would need to be both weighed against the immense relief in suffering enjoyed by the people who are demonstrably benefiting now, as well as the freedom for people to control their own destiny.
dang 4y ago
> I suggest you do a little reading You're of course welcome to be on either side of this issue, but please edit swipes like that out of your comments here. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. (Your comment would be fine without that bit.)
- willhslade 4y ago
  Hi dang, Sorry about that. I meant it neutrally but that didn't come across. I won't post again anything that suggests snark. Thanks, Will
  - dang 4y ago
    Appreciated!

mmastrac 4y ago

The breakdown of MAID by main condition is interesting, and suggests that the vast majority (~70%) are cancer patients avoiding a painful, prolonged and terrible death. This would also suggest that once we get even better at cancer treatments, the rate of people dying to MAID will drop dramatically. Later in the stats, ~80% of people have lost the ability to engage in activities of daily life (which IMO is a terrible place to be). I don't think your reference supports your claim at all. In fact, it suggests that it's doing exactly what it is meant to do: ending unnecessary suffering for those who are dying of diseases we don't yet have a cure to.

willhslade 4y ago
There have also been many reports of people, mostly disabled, who are unable to work or afford rent in Ontario, who have applied to medically assisted death rather than face homelessness. This might be both brinksmanship and gamesmanship, but it's extremely distasteful that we are here as a society.
- mmastrac 4y ago
  Your claim requires some specific evidence (reports meaning one, two, ten?), and that would need to be both weighed against the immense relief in suffering enjoyed by the people who are demonstrably benefiting now, as well as the freedom for people to control their own destiny.

dang 4y ago

> I suggest you do a little reading You're of course welcome to be on either side of this issue, but please edit swipes like that out of your comments here. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. (Your comment would be fine without that bit.)

willhslade 4y ago
Hi dang, Sorry about that. I meant it neutrally but that didn't come across. I won't post again anything that suggests snark. Thanks, Will
- dang 4y ago
  Appreciated!