> Please don't dismiss that these circumstances exist altogether and don't shift the "blame" exclusively on the people who already have their lives be needlessl

> Please don't dismiss that these circumstances exist altogether and don't shift the "blame" exclusively on the people who already have their lives be needlessly hard, this isn't likely to encourage a positive outlook. Au contraire, OP was blaming engineers with a "holier than thou" attitude. That exact attitude is the kind of thing that leads to the dysfunctional environments that you speak of. Should SWE consider SRE at design time? Absolutely. Should SRE consider SWE at design time? Absolutely.