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Old man shakes fist at cloud rant Lord I wish we could go back to the days of pay a flat one time fee and own the dang software so I don't get "improvements" s

Old man shakes fist at cloud rant Lord I wish we could go back to the days of pay a flat one time fee and own the dang software so I don't get "improvements" shoved down my throat Old man rant over

vbezhenar 4y ago
You can stay on iOS 15. Nobody shoves iOS 16 down your throat. Apple even backports fixes for most dangerous vulnerabilities for quite some time. What you can't do is downgrade once you've found that you're not happy with upgrade. That's the most bizarre Apple thing. Unless you can jailbreak. Not sure if it works nowadays, back in days I was very happy to downgrade to iOS 6 with jailbreak on my iPhone 4S.
- dataflow 4y ago
  How long do you think people will be able to stay on old versions of software like iOS 15? 5 years? 10 years? 30 years? Their lifetime?
  - fsflover 4y ago
    This is exactly why I avoid iPhones and prefer to support GNU/Linux on the phones. Such phones will have a lifetime support without anti-features.
- egb 4y ago
  No, they forced iOS16 by only backporting security fixes for devices that can't run iOS16 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/apple-releases-ios-15-security-updates-for-devices-that-cant-upgrade-to-16/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/apple-releases-ios-1...
  - yftsui 4y ago
    No, i think they are just messing up the devices force using iOS16 they think they can get away with. iPad Pro (2021) get iOS 15.7.2 update.
- passwordoops 4y ago
  I get what you're saying about staying on an old version, but, and we can split hairs here, preventing downgrade is in effect a forced upgrade. Ideally, there should be a system where security patches are installed, but anythingv what is optional and reversible
ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
I wish there is the option of customization. This should be an option in the settings of the app nothing more.
- passwordoops 4y ago
  Not sure exactly what you mean, but I assume customization in this context is the choice to pick what updates are implemented in your session/device. I like it in theory but supporting it can be unwieldy, especially for design-led orgs that like to tinker and introduce changes a lot (not dissing, just not my preference). Like how many versions and combinations do you support? I've worked in an app company once, and supporting web, iOS, and Android was somewhat annoying enough. Can't imagine adding in support for old versions. OTOH it could force more deliberation and discipline on the part of product teams before going all-in on whatever shiny new object caught their eye this month

Old man shakes fist at cloud rant Lord I wish we could go back to the days of pay a flat one time fee and own the dang software so I don't get "improvements" shoved down my throat Old man rant over

vbezhenar 4y ago

You can stay on iOS 15. Nobody shoves iOS 16 down your throat. Apple even backports fixes for most dangerous vulnerabilities for quite some time. What you can't do is downgrade once you've found that you're not happy with upgrade. That's the most bizarre Apple thing. Unless you can jailbreak. Not sure if it works nowadays, back in days I was very happy to downgrade to iOS 6 with jailbreak on my iPhone 4S.

dataflow 4y ago
How long do you think people will be able to stay on old versions of software like iOS 15? 5 years? 10 years? 30 years? Their lifetime?
- fsflover 4y ago
  This is exactly why I avoid iPhones and prefer to support GNU/Linux on the phones. Such phones will have a lifetime support without anti-features.
egb 4y ago
No, they forced iOS16 by only backporting security fixes for devices that can't run iOS16 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/apple-releases-ios-15-security-updates-for-devices-that-cant-upgrade-to-16/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/apple-releases-ios-1...
- yftsui 4y ago
  No, i think they are just messing up the devices force using iOS16 they think they can get away with. iPad Pro (2021) get iOS 15.7.2 update.
passwordoops 4y ago
I get what you're saying about staying on an old version, but, and we can split hairs here, preventing downgrade is in effect a forced upgrade. Ideally, there should be a system where security patches are installed, but anythingv what is optional and reversible

ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago

I wish there is the option of customization. This should be an option in the settings of the app nothing more.

passwordoops 4y ago
Not sure exactly what you mean, but I assume customization in this context is the choice to pick what updates are implemented in your session/device. I like it in theory but supporting it can be unwieldy, especially for design-led orgs that like to tinker and introduce changes a lot (not dissing, just not my preference). Like how many versions and combinations do you support? I've worked in an app company once, and supporting web, iOS, and Android was somewhat annoying enough. Can't imagine adding in support for old versions. OTOH it could force more deliberation and discipline on the part of product teams before going all-in on whatever shiny new object caught their eye this month