> you know that all the GTK buttons will have the button in the same place This is vehemently untrue. You know that all GNOME applications will have the button

> you know that all the GTK buttons will have the button in the same place This is vehemently untrue. You know that all GNOME applications will have the buttons in the same place (GNOME writes their own HID) but GTK doesn't have an HID. GTK is simply a GUI toolkit, I can put my topbar at the bottom of my window if I want. It's not 'correct' but I can still do it and ship my application.