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This is shocking news to me. How many extra votes does Rupert Murdoch get? What is the exchange rate from dollars to votes, precisely?

sopooneo 4y ago
I don't know these numbers, but I bet someone on Murdoch's staff does, at a statistical level.
skummetmaelk 4y ago
Is this sarcasm? I actually cannot tell.
- next_xibalba 4y ago
  - greenie_beans 4y ago
    lol who's gonna tell them
flanflan 4y ago
is this a serious comment? Rupert murdoch is a global media baron, he literally owns news outlets that encourage people to vote in one way or another. Do you think those news outlets are free of his ideology? do you think the washington post is free of Bezos' ideology? Even billionaires and millionaires who dont own media companies have outsized influence. They can fund politicians they prefer to an extent that a rival might not be able to match. They can pay for lobbyists. There are a myriad of ways that dollars turn into votes without a mustachioed man walking around with a bag of money being involved. Mass movements aside the working class isnt out there propping up politicians.
- next_xibalba 4y ago
  - flanflan 4y ago
    oh my god https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
    - next_xibalba 4y ago
      You haven't presented any evidence. So I'm not sure how this is "pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed". Do you think it uncivil to ask people to justify their claims with evidence?
      - pretendscholar 4y ago
        Ask a serious question then.
Devasta 4y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_The_Sun_Wot_Won_It https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_The_Sun_Wot_Won_It Murdoch's own papers claim credit for election victories. I don't know the exact conversion rate from dollars to votes, but it's absurd to suggest one doesn't exist and that Murdoch's organizations don't know what it is.

sopooneo 4y ago

I don't know these numbers, but I bet someone on Murdoch's staff does, at a statistical level.

skummetmaelk 4y ago

Is this sarcasm? I actually cannot tell.

next_xibalba 4y ago
- greenie_beans 4y ago
  lol who's gonna tell them

flanflan 4y ago

is this a serious comment? Rupert murdoch is a global media baron, he literally owns news outlets that encourage people to vote in one way or another. Do you think those news outlets are free of his ideology? do you think the washington post is free of Bezos' ideology? Even billionaires and millionaires who dont own media companies have outsized influence. They can fund politicians they prefer to an extent that a rival might not be able to match. They can pay for lobbyists. There are a myriad of ways that dollars turn into votes without a mustachioed man walking around with a bag of money being involved. Mass movements aside the working class isnt out there propping up politicians.

next_xibalba 4y ago
- flanflan 4y ago
  oh my god https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
  - next_xibalba 4y ago
    You haven't presented any evidence. So I'm not sure how this is "pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed". Do you think it uncivil to ask people to justify their claims with evidence?
    - pretendscholar 4y ago
      Ask a serious question then.

Devasta 4y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_The_Sun_Wot_Won_It https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_The_Sun_Wot_Won_It Murdoch's own papers claim credit for election victories. I don't know the exact conversion rate from dollars to votes, but it's absurd to suggest one doesn't exist and that Murdoch's organizations don't know what it is.