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It takes less vertical space because it reuses the (mostly empty) title bar.
by yoavm 4y ago
It takes less vertical space because it reuses the (mostly empty) title bar.
- VyseofArcadia 4y agoI loathe applications that put controls all over the title bar. The title bar is supposed to be a mostly empty expanse that you can grab with a mouse. Now it's littered with controls, and I can hardly bring windows to focus or move them around without accidentally searching something or confirming something.
- phkahler 4y ago+100 couldn't agree more. And it's not a rational decision, it's a UI trend.
- sovnade 4y agoAgreed - especially if I'm remoted into a box and not necessarily running a full-resolution screen. Bad UI design is magnified when you're at 1024x768.
- aragilar 4y agoI find it somewhat ironic given current GNOME that when I was choosing between GNOME 2 or KDE 3 back in the day, GNOME 2 won as bits wouldn't float off my screen...
- davet91 4y agoWith GTK you can at least drag the window by grabbing controls in the titlebar.
- drdo 4y agoAt least on gnome you can drag or resize a window from anywhere by holding Super.
- kroltan 4y agoI used to agree, then I moved to Linux (KDE specifically) and found out I could set my DE up so Super+LMB anywhere on a window moves it, and Super+RMB resizes it, it's is way more convenient, I haven't found myself using the title bar any more.
- tmdh 4y agoBut using the title bar is what most of us are used to.
- justsomehnguy 4y agohttps://xkcd.com/1172/ https://xkcd.com/1172/
- Sakos 4y agoDiscoverability rears its head. I don't see how moving that functionality into some obscure button combination is better than obvious behavior.
- kroltan 4y agoI'm not advocating for this to become the default functionality across the world for everyone, it's definitely very opt-in. In that case you don't need discoverability for something you set up yourself. It's also very fun to play with when using the Wobbly Windows effect, you can stretch them in different ways depending on where exactly you picked the window up from.
- iso1631 4y agoI have Alt-LMB for moving, but that all falls to pot when I remote into another machine -- alt-lmb moves my rdp/vnc/browser, not the one in the screen I'm connected to.
- layer8 4y agoTitle bars also serve to more quickly recognize where windows are. If every application fills up the title bar with different stuff, it becomes harder to “parse” where windows are on the screen. There is an inherent benefit in windows having uniform “chrome”.
- Sakos 4y agoIt annoys me particularly when I want to move a Firefox window. I have to find that one tiny spot that still allows me to move the thing.
- doublepg23 4y agoI was under the impression this was controllable.
- seba_dos1 4y agoMinimizing used space is often (usually?) at odds with good UX, so I guess the actual question is: why is minimizing vertical space even a goal there?
- pmontra 4y agoThe 16:9 screens. Once upon a time they were called widescreens because many people were used to small (in inches) CRTs or LCDs (even with square panels.) Basically they were 12:9 and those 4 extra units on the horizontal axis become real extra space. Unfortunately most people only got 768p screens on their laptops while all TV sets had 1080p and some of the old monitors were 1024p or 1200p. So "less vertical space". And then when you have a 13" laptop you don't have much vertical space no matter the resolution.
- seba_dos1 4y agoWe're talking about things like dialog windows that don't take much vertical space even when putting all confirmation buttons in separate rows; this is a set of applications that often easily fit on half the screen. I know what you're talking about, I'm writing this on a laptop with 13" screen and I'm using a browser with vertical tab bar for a reason, but this isn't that case.
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- tveyben 4y agoLess space on a UHD monitor (meaning these days we have enough pixels). In the 640x480 px days then it might made sense to really squeeze btn’s in…
- kevincox 4y agoAs opposed to the space in the mostly unused bottom bar?
- dmitriid 4y agoAh yes. Instead it pollutes the title bar with multiple things with wildly different behaviours with no error margin "less vertical space" so let's have a hamburger menu on a desktop screen. Right next to the window close button. "less vertical space" so let's have a tiny search icon right next to the select button "less vertical space" so let's have search consistently in the left corner, no in the middle, no to the right "less vertical space", so let's have tabs, buttons, icons, and hamburger menu in one row. There's no space for the actual title or little space to drag the window? But THERE'S LESS VERTICAL SPACE ENJOY
- nextaccountic 4y ago> "less vertical space" so let's have a hamburger menu on a desktop screen. hamburger menu on desktop should be abolished