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The entire graphical interface aesthetics/usability has been declining for decades now, on all platforms. Look at GTK1: https://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/im

The entire graphical interface aesthetics/usability has been declining for decades now, on all platforms. Look at GTK1: https://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/images/shots/092/gnutellaNet-Stats-GTK1.png https://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/images/shots/092/gnutel... It looks good. Sharp fonts, good use of space, clearly recognizable widgets, application doesn't treat users like idiots. What do we have now? Fuzzy-ass fonts (except on phones where DPI>400), huge margins, barely recognizable widgets, GNOME applications written for people in comas.

steve1977 4y ago
For me personally, NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP was probably peak UI design. Mac OS X Server/Rhapsody v, where they basically mixed NeXTSTEP and Mac OS 9, and early Mac OS X releases (before brushes metal) were also nice. All downhill from there… now get off my lawn! ;)
- helf 4y ago
  Here here! I miss my NeXT (I used way beyond a reasonable length of time lol). Fantastic UI. So many modern UIs are so damn space inefficient. Drives me mad. It’s like designers think everyone is an 80yo with Parkinson’s and bad eyes. Massive screen waste; white space everywhere; blah blah. I hates it.
  - formerly_proven 4y ago
    But but my whitespace! I really love low density interfaces. The new DB app manages to fully halve the number of connections on a screen compared to the old one. That’s progress!
neongreen 4y ago
I wonder.. has anybody tried training Stable Diffusion on GUIs? I'd love to play with it and perhaps see how GTK1 would look like with better font rendering, border-radius, a modern color palette, etc.
- TingPing 4y ago
  You can still design a GTK4 application like a GTK1 application... People just don't because, well its not very usable.
jeroenhd 4y ago
That screenshot is a significant step down from Windows 95 already. It's simply too complex. Way too many random vertical and horizontal lines going everywhere. A mix of text way too close to other controls right next to whitespace controls. Outlines intersecting with the text they're highlighting when there's plenty of space around them. Drag&drop bars that attract way too much attention with how textured they are. I personally like the modern, simpler designs better. The aesthetic of late 90s UI were great but their designs were often a hodgepodge of whatever control the developers could fit onto the screen, with resize bars placed to let the user overcome the crammed design on demand. I don't know what your working system looks like, but my fonts aren't fuzzy. The margins are visually pleasing and the widgets are quite intuitive because they're used consistently. Feel free to go back to the old ways with Chicago 95 and LXDE. It's not exactly Windows 95, but it's pretty damn close. But please don't bring back the jank of overcrammed late 90s UI design, you'll only scare people away.
drdo 4y ago
That's just like... your opinion man. I find modern UIs much more aesthetically pleasing than that GTK1 pic, by far.

steve1977 4y ago

For me personally, NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP was probably peak UI design. Mac OS X Server/Rhapsody v, where they basically mixed NeXTSTEP and Mac OS 9, and early Mac OS X releases (before brushes metal) were also nice. All downhill from there… now get off my lawn! ;)

helf 4y ago
Here here! I miss my NeXT (I used way beyond a reasonable length of time lol). Fantastic UI. So many modern UIs are so damn space inefficient. Drives me mad. It’s like designers think everyone is an 80yo with Parkinson’s and bad eyes. Massive screen waste; white space everywhere; blah blah. I hates it.
- formerly_proven 4y ago
  But but my whitespace! I really love low density interfaces. The new DB app manages to fully halve the number of connections on a screen compared to the old one. That’s progress!

neongreen 4y ago

I wonder.. has anybody tried training Stable Diffusion on GUIs? I'd love to play with it and perhaps see how GTK1 would look like with better font rendering, border-radius, a modern color palette, etc.

TingPing 4y ago
You can still design a GTK4 application like a GTK1 application... People just don't because, well its not very usable.

jeroenhd 4y ago

That screenshot is a significant step down from Windows 95 already. It's simply too complex. Way too many random vertical and horizontal lines going everywhere. A mix of text way too close to other controls right next to whitespace controls. Outlines intersecting with the text they're highlighting when there's plenty of space around them. Drag&drop bars that attract way too much attention with how textured they are. I personally like the modern, simpler designs better. The aesthetic of late 90s UI were great but their designs were often a hodgepodge of whatever control the developers could fit onto the screen, with resize bars placed to let the user overcome the crammed design on demand. I don't know what your working system looks like, but my fonts aren't fuzzy. The margins are visually pleasing and the widgets are quite intuitive because they're used consistently. Feel free to go back to the old ways with Chicago 95 and LXDE. It's not exactly Windows 95, but it's pretty damn close. But please don't bring back the jank of overcrammed late 90s UI design, you'll only scare people away.

drdo 4y ago

That's just like... your opinion man. I find modern UIs much more aesthetically pleasing than that GTK1 pic, by far.