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And this is with then sucking eastern europe dry off almost all capable medical personnel. Lets face it Western European healthcare is a scam. They are barely
by mathverse 4y ago
And this is with then sucking eastern europe dry off almost all capable medical personnel.
Lets face it Western European healthcare is a scam. They are barely existing with millions of qualified people from CEE and now they are eyeing countries like Philippines, Indonesia and such.
It is all a ponzi
- albertopv 4y agoIt's not a Ponzi, reality is western europe is not really rich, not as much as it seems. Debt is over the roof, demography is a disaster, politicians worse and worse every year passing, corruption even inside EU parliament. China is now much richer as a whole.
- theCrowing 4y agoYou are projecting the views of riches in China on the very few factors you are allowed to see go further than 100 miles from a big city and you are basically in the 1900s.
- albertopv 4y agoCome to Italy, there's people from the hills sellings eggs from their cars. Btw, China has a space station all alone, only country in the world. How so?
- theCrowing 4y agoSee they have cars... everyone else knows that it's not a good investment?
- albertopv 4y agoI have a 16yo car and I'm a sw engineer with a decent salary, italian avg is 12yo, which is a lot. And I live in a comparatively rich northern region, southern Italy is much, much poorer. Less and less people can afford to buy a new car, let alone a BEV. We are back to 1970s cars selling numbers.
- ManuelKiessling 4y agoI don’t have any specific information on the current situation, and regarding future developments, well my crystal ball is currently in service — but regarding the situation up until at least recently, I will go on record any time: I have lived the past 44 years in the context of the German health care system, and it was basically perfect, period. Compared to the US (hearsay), and the Eastern European systems (first hand knowledge through the wife), I‘ll take the Western European system any day.
- jhoechtl 4y agoCant speak for Germany but the situation in Austria has been more or less the same. Perfect. But I think we are increasingly slipping into a two class medcare system.
- throw_pm23 4y agoThe comment you responded to was not saying that Eastern European systems are better than Western European ones, but that Western European ones are better because they benefit from getting personnel educated in Eastern Europe and elsewhere for free.
- mathverse 4y agoWe are talking about sustainability not quality here. German health care system is barely functioning (and it always was like that. Remember the korean nurses in Western Germany?) living off of other countries labor. And per capita germany is the 2nd behind the US on healthcare expenditure. There's louder and louder voices in other countries to fix this problem by mandating the medical personnel trained in those countries to practice medicine for X number of years. It's simply not sustainable.