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I Wish I Could Tell You This One Is Not All About Twitter

45 points by 5amdotis 4y ago

dools 4y ago
What does the “activist entered our stock” line in Dorsey’s post refer to?
- function_seven 4y ago
  I think it’s this? https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-strikes-deal-activist-investor-keep-jack-dorsey-ceo-n1153066 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-strikes-de...
- cratermoon 4y ago
  Elliot Management. They bought a huge stake in Twitter, took over the board, and forced Dorsey out. https://www.axios.com/2021/11/30/jack-dorsey-twitter-departure-elliott-management https://www.axios.com/2021/11/30/jack-dorsey-twitter-departu...
cactusplant7374 4y ago
> 1. Social media must be resilient to corporate and government control. I disagree with this. I think this falls under Musk's idea that "sunlight is the best disinfectant." [0] Is sunlight the best disinfectant if January 6 groups are finding like minded individuals to commit assassinations. [1] > 2. Only the original author may remove content they produce. What Twitter is doing with ghost banning is unsustainable. The only reason groups such as #NAFO haven't left the platform is because they band together to upvote their posts and comments. But the average person that is shadow banned for calling Musk a jerk or whatever won't see any engagement because their comment will be hidden behind "Show more replies." Compare this to reddit. Your comment is either accepted or rejected. There isn't a grey area. > 3. Moderation is best implemented by algorithmic choice. I don't have a firm opinion on this in general. Moderation by a team seems too slow for real-time Twitter. Perhaps on tweets that get 10,000 replies moderation makes a lot of sense. But on a tweet that gets 100 replies should some tweets be behind "Show more replies" or should they just be at the end of the scroll? I don't see any discussion on how to prioritize tweets from people that don't have a massive following. Some of the tweets I see from people with 10 followers are basically the same as those with 20,000 followers. Why does the guy with 20k tweets get more engagement? The dynamic on twitter with the average user is so different from Reddit. Getting upvotes and engagement on Reddit is 10x easier. [0] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521574200183566338 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521574200183566338 [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/us/politics/jan-6-defendant-assassination-plot.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/us/politics/jan-6-defenda...
- torben-friis 4y ago
  >Compare this to reddit. Your comment is either accepted or rejected. There isn't a grey area. Not true, not anymore at least. Used to be that comments downvoted beyond a threshold automatically folded the comment branch, making it less visible. Now it does that for upvoted comments as well, for an unclear reason (untrusted accounts or something?).

45 points by 5amdotis 4y ago

dools 4y ago

What does the “activist entered our stock” line in Dorsey’s post refer to?

function_seven 4y ago
I think it’s this? https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-strikes-deal-activist-investor-keep-jack-dorsey-ceo-n1153066 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-strikes-de...
cratermoon 4y ago
Elliot Management. They bought a huge stake in Twitter, took over the board, and forced Dorsey out. https://www.axios.com/2021/11/30/jack-dorsey-twitter-departure-elliott-management https://www.axios.com/2021/11/30/jack-dorsey-twitter-departu...

cactusplant7374 4y ago

> 1. Social media must be resilient to corporate and government control. I disagree with this. I think this falls under Musk's idea that "sunlight is the best disinfectant." [0] Is sunlight the best disinfectant if January 6 groups are finding like minded individuals to commit assassinations. [1] > 2. Only the original author may remove content they produce. What Twitter is doing with ghost banning is unsustainable. The only reason groups such as #NAFO haven't left the platform is because they band together to upvote their posts and comments. But the average person that is shadow banned for calling Musk a jerk or whatever won't see any engagement because their comment will be hidden behind "Show more replies." Compare this to reddit. Your comment is either accepted or rejected. There isn't a grey area. > 3. Moderation is best implemented by algorithmic choice. I don't have a firm opinion on this in general. Moderation by a team seems too slow for real-time Twitter. Perhaps on tweets that get 10,000 replies moderation makes a lot of sense. But on a tweet that gets 100 replies should some tweets be behind "Show more replies" or should they just be at the end of the scroll? I don't see any discussion on how to prioritize tweets from people that don't have a massive following. Some of the tweets I see from people with 10 followers are basically the same as those with 20,000 followers. Why does the guy with 20k tweets get more engagement? The dynamic on twitter with the average user is so different from Reddit. Getting upvotes and engagement on Reddit is 10x easier. [0] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521574200183566338 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521574200183566338 [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/us/politics/jan-6-defendant-assassination-plot.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/us/politics/jan-6-defenda...

torben-friis 4y ago
>Compare this to reddit. Your comment is either accepted or rejected. There isn't a grey area. Not true, not anymore at least. Used to be that comments downvoted beyond a threshold automatically folded the comment branch, making it less visible. Now it does that for upvoted comments as well, for an unclear reason (untrusted accounts or something?).