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Why do people keep saying they knowingly allowed child exploitation. Do I need to be deep in the qanon to get this reference or something?

themitigating 4y ago
Another lie that is said so often that they think it's true.
- theonething 4y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34024832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34024832
  - themitigating 4y ago
    Are they unwilling or unable? These stories don't show executives don't care or are encouraging it.
    - theonething 4y ago
      The story is saying they are not even trying. That seems to show they don't care and/or they have other priorities like trying to make a buck off porn.
      - themitigating 4y ago
        Who is making the assessment that they aren't trying hard enough? And "seems like" isn't evidence
        theonething 4y ago
        The employees and the internal working group that reported on the state of Twitter's ability to shutdown exploitive content and made recommendations that weren't followed through on. > Employees say that Twitter’s executives know about the problem, but the company has repeatedly failed to act.
abigail95 4y ago
They can't/don't want to monetize the pornography on their website because some of it is abuse material. Normal people think it's not enough to not profit from it - you need to try very hard to remove it.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  They do remove it. I've reported illegal pornography on Twitter several times and they removed it faster than any other kind of abuse report I made there. And it's not like I went out to look for it, if you're on Twitter long enough you will end up with DMs from the weirdest people.
theonething 4y ago
> Internal documents and Twitter employees reveal the need for massive investment to remove illegal content — but executives haven’t listened > Twitter still has a problem with content that sexually exploits children. Executives are apparently well-informed about the issue, and the company is doing little to fix it. https://www.theverge.com/23327809/twitter-onlyfans-child-sexual-content-problem-elon-musk https://www.theverge.com/23327809/twitter-onlyfans-child-sex... https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/twitter-sued-for-allegedly-refusing-to-remove-child-porn/ https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/twitter-sued-for-allegedly-ref...
- nickthegreek 4y ago
  Appreciate the verge link. The post link doesn’t really bring new info to the conversation until the trial. It doesn’t seem like there are good answers on how to resolve this issue sadly. I wish there was more transparency on how much these social media giants are spending on this issue, how much is removed per year and average time the content was accessible. It’s hard to judge on the outside the size and scope of this problem and the resources being thrown at it. And that doesn’t even get into the psychological issues that this has to do for the reviewers. This is truly some of the darkest stuff that humanity has and scale makes it hard to resolve.
  - theonething 4y ago
    > It doesn’t seem like there are good answers on how to resolve this issue sadly. Actually, the article highlights the internal working group of 84 employees that spent months evaluating Twitter's ability to suppress this exploitive material , concluding that Twitter had major problems in this area and submitting a list of recommendations to fix them that were mostly ignored. > Aside from enabling in-app reporting of CSE, there appears to have been little progress on the group’s other recommendations. > Employees say that Twitter’s executives know about the problem, but the company has repeatedly failed to act.

themitigating 4y ago

Another lie that is said so often that they think it's true.

theonething 4y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34024832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34024832
- themitigating 4y ago
  Are they unwilling or unable? These stories don't show executives don't care or are encouraging it.
  - theonething 4y ago
    The story is saying they are not even trying. That seems to show they don't care and/or they have other priorities like trying to make a buck off porn.
    - themitigating 4y ago
      Who is making the assessment that they aren't trying hard enough? And "seems like" isn't evidence
      - theonething 4y ago
        The employees and the internal working group that reported on the state of Twitter's ability to shutdown exploitive content and made recommendations that weren't followed through on. > Employees say that Twitter’s executives know about the problem, but the company has repeatedly failed to act.

abigail95 4y ago

They can't/don't want to monetize the pornography on their website because some of it is abuse material. Normal people think it's not enough to not profit from it - you need to try very hard to remove it.

jacquesm 4y ago
They do remove it. I've reported illegal pornography on Twitter several times and they removed it faster than any other kind of abuse report I made there. And it's not like I went out to look for it, if you're on Twitter long enough you will end up with DMs from the weirdest people.

theonething 4y ago

> Internal documents and Twitter employees reveal the need for massive investment to remove illegal content — but executives haven’t listened > Twitter still has a problem with content that sexually exploits children. Executives are apparently well-informed about the issue, and the company is doing little to fix it. https://www.theverge.com/23327809/twitter-onlyfans-child-sexual-content-problem-elon-musk https://www.theverge.com/23327809/twitter-onlyfans-child-sex... https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/twitter-sued-for-allegedly-refusing-to-remove-child-porn/ https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/twitter-sued-for-allegedly-ref...

nickthegreek 4y ago
Appreciate the verge link. The post link doesn’t really bring new info to the conversation until the trial. It doesn’t seem like there are good answers on how to resolve this issue sadly. I wish there was more transparency on how much these social media giants are spending on this issue, how much is removed per year and average time the content was accessible. It’s hard to judge on the outside the size and scope of this problem and the resources being thrown at it. And that doesn’t even get into the psychological issues that this has to do for the reviewers. This is truly some of the darkest stuff that humanity has and scale makes it hard to resolve.
- theonething 4y ago
  > It doesn’t seem like there are good answers on how to resolve this issue sadly. Actually, the article highlights the internal working group of 84 employees that spent months evaluating Twitter's ability to suppress this exploitive material , concluding that Twitter had major problems in this area and submitting a list of recommendations to fix them that were mostly ignored. > Aside from enabling in-app reporting of CSE, there appears to have been little progress on the group’s other recommendations. > Employees say that Twitter’s executives know about the problem, but the company has repeatedly failed to act.