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In an earlier release they also mention regular meetings (weekly?). That was not the only guy being contacted by the FBI either. Regardless, while you may call

In an earlier release they also mention regular meetings (weekly?). That was not the only guy being contacted by the FBI either. Regardless, while you may call this “underwhelming” it’s actually hard proof of illegal activity. The FBI cannot censor people, period. That’s fascism and illegal in the US, per multiple Supreme Court rulings. This effectively gives trump, et al a direct path to a lawsuit against the federal government and AGs of states cause to sue the federal government. It could very well (and imo will) lead to a church committee of sorts. That said, not sure if the powers are established enough to just resist all of it (they might be).

amluto 4y ago
> Regardless, while you may call this “underwhelming” it’s actually hard proof of illegal activity. The FBI cannot censor people, period. That’s not even remotely true. > That’s fascism May I suggest looking up fascism?
- RetpolineDrama 4y ago
- scifibestfi 4y ago
  Is fascism closer to free speech or is it closer to censorship?
  - jacquesm 4y ago
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djur 4y ago
> The FBI cannot censor people, period. That’s fascism and illegal in the US The FBI emailing Twitter to report possible violations of Twitter's terms of service is not censorship and it is not illegal. > This effectively gives trump, et al a direct path to a lawsuit against the federal government The FBI reported to Trump during the 2020 election cycle. It was headed by his own handpicked director, under the supervision of his own handpicked Attorney General.
- RetpolineDrama 4y ago
- cassac 4y ago
  I think what people are concerned about is the selectiveness of the reports. What if the FBI only happened to report violations by Asians. Or only violations by women? I guess it would not be censorship, and I guess it would not be not illegal either, but it would make people wonder if there is an agenda. It’s as much about the violations reported as the violations left unreported.
  - djur 4y ago
    The FBI reported tweets from Democrats as well as Republicans, and also apparently a parody of the pro wrestler The Undertaker where the joke is that he craps his pants regularly. Not seeing any evidence that there's any political bias to the reports, and if there was I certainly wouldn't expect the FBI of all organizations to be biased against conservatives.
- RetpolineDrama 4y ago
  - dang 4y ago
    Could you please stop using HN primarily for ideological battle? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, so we ban accounts that do it (regardless of what they're battling for or against). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
cratermoon 4y ago
https://abovethelaw.com/2022/12/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/ https://abovethelaw.com/2022/12/hello-youve-been-referred-he...
- Yoric 4y ago
  Thanks for the reference! Best write up I've seen so far on the topic.

amluto 4y ago

> Regardless, while you may call this “underwhelming” it’s actually hard proof of illegal activity. The FBI cannot censor people, period. That’s not even remotely true. > That’s fascism May I suggest looking up fascism?

RetpolineDrama 4y ago
scifibestfi 4y ago
Is fascism closer to free speech or is it closer to censorship?
- jacquesm 4y ago
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djur 4y ago

> The FBI cannot censor people, period. That’s fascism and illegal in the US The FBI emailing Twitter to report possible violations of Twitter's terms of service is not censorship and it is not illegal. > This effectively gives trump, et al a direct path to a lawsuit against the federal government The FBI reported to Trump during the 2020 election cycle. It was headed by his own handpicked director, under the supervision of his own handpicked Attorney General.

RetpolineDrama 4y ago
cassac 4y ago
I think what people are concerned about is the selectiveness of the reports. What if the FBI only happened to report violations by Asians. Or only violations by women? I guess it would not be censorship, and I guess it would not be not illegal either, but it would make people wonder if there is an agenda. It’s as much about the violations reported as the violations left unreported.
- djur 4y ago
  The FBI reported tweets from Democrats as well as Republicans, and also apparently a parody of the pro wrestler The Undertaker where the joke is that he craps his pants regularly. Not seeing any evidence that there's any political bias to the reports, and if there was I certainly wouldn't expect the FBI of all organizations to be biased against conservatives.
RetpolineDrama 4y ago
- dang 4y ago
  Could you please stop using HN primarily for ideological battle? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, so we ban accounts that do it (regardless of what they're battling for or against). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

cratermoon 4y ago

https://abovethelaw.com/2022/12/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/ https://abovethelaw.com/2022/12/hello-youve-been-referred-he...

Yoric 4y ago
Thanks for the reference! Best write up I've seen so far on the topic.