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I think it's against HN rules to call people shills, but I am too flabbergasted at people acting like it's no big deal that the FBI is working in secret to shut

I think it's against HN rules to call people shills, but I am too flabbergasted at people acting like it's no big deal that the FBI is working in secret to shut down narratives.

Apocryphon 4y ago
It is neither leftist nor shill to avoid distractions from real scandals like PRISM or Epstein. As Orwell said in 1984, his science fiction novel about big government, “If you kept the small rules, you could break the big ones.” The nitpickers in this thread stress out about content moderation when the FBI is getting away with the big stuff like failing to stop SBF or shutting down the Z-Library. That’s a case where Google and Amazon aided the FBI, too! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33646513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33646513
- simple-thoughts 4y ago
  “Don’t focus on the real, proven and documented conspiracy. Focus on the fake ones.” Epstein killed himself which is well documented. No, pizza gate is not real and a anon is a larper. This Twitter leaks are on the same level as PRISM, except it’s FBI instead of NSA. It’s significant because USG is fairly decentralized and just because one agency has gone rogue does not mean all have. We now have evidence that both FBI and NSA are rogue agencies.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    You know what is real? The FBI killed the Z-Library last month. They just let the InfraGard network get hacked. They’re spreading FUD against Apple’s new E2E encryption. I’d rather us focus our energies on the substantive and real than embarking on another grandstanding set of histrionics about social media first amendment rights. This is far from PRISM, which was surveillance. This is busybodying and enforcing federal election laws. Ho-hum. You want to call the FBI rogue, call them out for the important things they did wrong.
    - simple-thoughts 4y ago
      I’m using the term “rogue” here for a specific reason. Trump was president at the time and was nominally the head of the FBI. Did Trump give a directive to ask the FBI to ban people for political jokes on Twitter? It seems highly unlikely. A rogue agency is an agency which is no longer following its democratically elected leadership and is instead operating independently. The FBI is now proven to do what we all suspected before - operate as a completely parallel oligarchic institution to the democratic ones that are in place.

I think it's against HN rules to call people shills, but I am too flabbergasted at people acting like it's no big deal that the FBI is working in secret to shut down narratives.

Apocryphon 4y ago

It is neither leftist nor shill to avoid distractions from real scandals like PRISM or Epstein. As Orwell said in 1984, his science fiction novel about big government, “If you kept the small rules, you could break the big ones.” The nitpickers in this thread stress out about content moderation when the FBI is getting away with the big stuff like failing to stop SBF or shutting down the Z-Library. That’s a case where Google and Amazon aided the FBI, too! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33646513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33646513

simple-thoughts 4y ago
“Don’t focus on the real, proven and documented conspiracy. Focus on the fake ones.” Epstein killed himself which is well documented. No, pizza gate is not real and a anon is a larper. This Twitter leaks are on the same level as PRISM, except it’s FBI instead of NSA. It’s significant because USG is fairly decentralized and just because one agency has gone rogue does not mean all have. We now have evidence that both FBI and NSA are rogue agencies.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  You know what is real? The FBI killed the Z-Library last month. They just let the InfraGard network get hacked. They’re spreading FUD against Apple’s new E2E encryption. I’d rather us focus our energies on the substantive and real than embarking on another grandstanding set of histrionics about social media first amendment rights. This is far from PRISM, which was surveillance. This is busybodying and enforcing federal election laws. Ho-hum. You want to call the FBI rogue, call them out for the important things they did wrong.
  - simple-thoughts 4y ago
    I’m using the term “rogue” here for a specific reason. Trump was president at the time and was nominally the head of the FBI. Did Trump give a directive to ask the FBI to ban people for political jokes on Twitter? It seems highly unlikely. A rogue agency is an agency which is no longer following its democratically elected leadership and is instead operating independently. The FBI is now proven to do what we all suspected before - operate as a completely parallel oligarchic institution to the democratic ones that are in place.